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Re:Tech watchdogs call on Facebook, Google for transparency ... by stale2002 on Monday May 07, 2018 @06:50PM (#17017117)
If a company wants to maintain the legal immunity for user generated content, then it MUST be content neutral.

So fine YouTube can censor content if it likes, and in exchange every single time any one of its users posts anything illegal on the website, then police should go to the YouTube office and arrest someone.

You either get the legal immunity by being content neutral or you don't get it at all, and now you are subject to arrest for your user's content.

Re:Tech watchdogs call on Facebook, Google for transparency ... by dragonwriter on Monday May 07, 2018 @07:51PM (#17017490)
> If a company wants to maintain the legal immunity for user generated content, then it MUST be content neutral.

Legally false; CDA Section 230 not only does not require neutrality for its “shall not be considered the publisher” safe harbor, it explicitly protects provider good faith actions to remove content that either the provider or a user finds “obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected” as the “Good Samaritan” provision of the safe harbor.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/230 ; see (c)(1) and (c)(2)

Re:Tech watchdogs call on Facebook, Google for transparency ... by stale2002 on Monday May 07, 2018 @08:37PM (#17017779)
Sure it protects removing things that are obscene, lewd, or excessively violent.

But it absolutely does not protect against viewpoint or political discrimination. Which is what everyone who uses the XKCD comic is referring to.

The whole idea that a company can just censor certain viewpoints is false. They will lose their legal immunity if they do that.

It is only very specific things, like lewd content, that they are explicitly allowed to censor.

Re:Tech watchdogs call on Facebook, Google for transparency ... by dragonwriter on Monday May 07, 2018 @09:27PM (#17018096)
> Sure it protects removing things that are obscene, lewd, or excessively violent.

Or—and all these are in the view of the provider or a user—“otherwise objectionable”.

> But it absolutely does not protect against viewpoint or political discrimination.

Since political content could quite easily make either the provider or a user view content as objectionable, this claim does not seem to be grounded in the text. If you are prepared to cite case law or some other basis for accepting your claim that the definition of “otherwise objectionable” is limited in the way you suggest, I'd sure like to see that citation.

Furthermore, even if it was outside the scope of the Good Samaritan protection as you claim, the “shall not be considered the publisher” safe harbor is nowhere made contingent on not taking actions that are outside of Good Samaritan protection with regard to removing content.

> The whole idea that a company can just censor certain viewpoints is false. They will lose their legal immunity if they do that.

This is an interesting contention about the law, but while you keep repeating it, you haven't supported it.

Re:Tech watchdogs call on Facebook, Google for transparency ... by ucaetano on Monday May 07, 2018 @07:44PM (#17017438)
> If a company wants to maintain the legal immunity for user generated content, then it MUST be content neutral.

Sources, please? Can you show me a court decision ruling that such companies can't have content policy?

So, no, they don't have to be content neutral.