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Re:Does growing up poor harm brain development? by lev99 on Monday May 07, 2018 @03:06PM (#17015500)
Here is an article written by Thomas Sowell in case someone wanted to read from him first hand.

https://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2002/10/01/race...

I am not well read enough on the subject to have my own opinion. My summary of his words: The average score of an IQ test is defined as 100, so the raw intelligence each score represents changes over time as population intelligence changes over time. Some nations have seen an increase in average IQ of 20 points. There is a difference of IQ between African Americans and the rest of the US population, but that can be explained as being socially isolated, and the same difference can be found in other socially isolated populations.

* Edit: I am embarrassed to have linked to such a publication, but will not modify my original words.

Re:Does growing up poor harm brain development? by stcredzero on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @11:51PM (#17036243)
Edit: I am embarrassed to have linked to such a publication, but will not modify my original words.

No, don't be. Don't be swayed by guilt by association. That is a tool of oppressors. Evaluate information and arguments on their merits. You can't keep ideologies honest if you're not allowed to evaluate and possibly "fire" them and seek alternatives.

Are you wedded to the "flag" or "label" or to the principles represented by them?

Re:Does growing up poor harm brain development? by eunoia on Monday May 07, 2018 @03:16PM (#17015588)
I can't yet comment on the substance of Thomas Sowell's argument, but when I went to read his article I was struck by townhall.com's top 3 trending pieces.

• Why Science and Experience Command That You Buy an 'Assault Rifle'

• An Eagle Scout Explains the Fatal Folly of Taking the ‘Boy’ out of Boy Scouts

• Liberalism Must Be Destroyed

Draw your own conclusions on bias.

Edit: To those downvoting, why? If I'm in the wrong to point this out and let people draw their own conclusions please comment and let me know why.

Re:Does growing up poor harm brain development? by lev99 on Monday May 07, 2018 @03:25PM (#17015669)
Wow! I suffer from chronic tunnel vision and missed some important context about that website.
Re:Does growing up poor harm brain development? by jimmywanger on Monday May 07, 2018 @05:04PM (#17016476)
Argue the point, do not attack the website.

Simply because the website publishes other ideas that you disagree with, doesn't mean that the author is fundamentally incorrect in his reasoning.

Ad hominem attacks are never good.

Re:Does growing up poor harm brain development? by eunoia on Monday May 07, 2018 @06:46PM (#17017095)
I appreciate the point you're making, but I don't feel my comment was made to attack the website while ignoring the argument. I merely pointed out what they choose to display as their "trending articles".

Do you find context to be completely irrelevant when engaging in political discussion?

Re:Does growing up poor harm brain development? by wilsonnb on Monday May 07, 2018 @07:10PM (#17017242)
Ad hominem attacks are sometimes good.

It's reasonable to evaluate a source before you trust what comes out of that source.

For example, I have ample experience being lied to by Donald Trump and therefore I feel comfortable ignoring most of what he says or assuming it's a lie.

There is too much information in the world today to not rely on filters like the reputation of and your experience with the source.

Re:Does growing up poor harm brain development? by stcredzero on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @11:26PM (#17036164)
Ad hominem attacks are sometimes good.

Only in that they reveal the intellectually dishonest.

Re:Does growing up poor harm brain development? by laretluval on Monday May 07, 2018 @05:19PM (#17016569)
Townhall is a well-known conservative website. Are you surprised they are running articles arguing for conservative points? Or do you think those headlines are outside the bounds of reasonable discourse?
Re:Does growing up poor harm brain development? by wilsonnb on Monday May 07, 2018 @07:07PM (#17017218)
I'm not the parent commenter, but I decided to read the one about science compelling me to purchase an assault rifle.

It's mostly fear mongering under the pretext of "science" by using a medium article that attempts to estimate the likelihood of a group attempting to overthrow the US government based on the fact that two "overthrows" have been attempted (Revolutionary and Civil wars).

It also has a good amount of liberal bashing and partly through it we get to the real reason it was written which was to plug the authors book.

The summary on Amazon is as follows:

"America’s growing political and cultural divisions have finally split the United States apart. Now, as the former blue states begin to collapse under the dead weight of their politically correct tyranny, a lethal operative haunted by his violent past undertakes one last mission to infiltrate and take out his target in the nightmarish city of Los Angeles, deep in the heart of the People’s Republic of North America"

Basically the author is trying to scare me, justify those fears with "science", give me an enemy to focus my fear on, and then sell me a book which will both make the author money and give me the satisfaction of living out a fantasy scenario in which all of my fears were correct and I can feel like a good guy.

In summary, I would say that this article is far outside the bounds of reasonable discourse and should not be read by anybody.

Re:Does growing up poor harm brain development? by lev99 on Monday May 07, 2018 @10:20PM (#17018331)
This is my first encounter with Townhall. I am embarrassed to cite a publication with a blatant political agenda without specifically commenting on it's agenda. This is specifically true because I provided a summary which talks about race and intelligence, which is a socially taboo subject.
Re:Does growing up poor harm brain development? by eunoia on Monday May 07, 2018 @06:40PM (#17017060)
> Townhall is a well-known conservative website.

I didn't know that, and apparently neither did the poster of that link.

> Or do you think those headlines are outside the bounds of reasonable discourse?

My only intention was to point out potential bias. Now that you mention it though, no, I don't think a headline like "Liberalism Must Be Destroyed" is making a good faith effort to start a reasonable discourse. I think it's pandering to the kind of destructive tribal political think that has rendered productive political discourse basically nonexistent these days. And I would say the same if the title was "Conservatism Must Be Destroyed"

Edit: I read the articles. Those headlines might honestly be understating the level of bias. I don't event want to sully HN with that level of pathological tribal political nonsense. For example, regardless of your opinion on guns (I own one personally), to pretend like this is what healthy political discourse looks like is completely unacceptable.

> Ignore the liberals who want an America where you disarmed and defenseless against the tyranny they dream of imposing. Ignore the hateful teens MSNBCNN spotlight and the Hollywood virtue signalers who harangue you from behind armed guards. Ignore the blue falcon Democrat vets who think their tour in Iraq means they earned some sort of moral authority to dictate to you what guns you do and don’t need. If that’s how it works, I did 27 years, so doesn’t my guidance that you should totally buy an AR-15 count? No? Oh, right – their vetsplaining is just manipulative liberal baloney.

> Instead, be guided by science. The science, supported by experience, make clear what you need to do. Buy guns and ammunition. Get an AR-15.

> Gee, why do liberals hate science so much?

Re:Does growing up poor harm brain development? by stcredzero on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @11:54PM (#17036255)
no, I don't think a headline like "Liberalism Must Be Destroyed" is making a good faith effort to start a reasonable discourse.

Funny, but I've seen such headlines from the Far Left directed at centrist liberals!