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Re:Subscription Hell by jakobegger on Sunday May 06, 2018 @03:47PM (#17008096)
But 50€ a month is way too much for casual users.

I do some vector design work maybe once a month. I'd love to buy a license for Illustrator, if it cost whatever it used to cost before Creative Cloud. I would use it for a long time.

But 50€ per month is too much. So I bought a license for Affinity Designer instead. It covers most of my needs, and it's no subscription. I also bought a license for Sketch, since the subscription is optional.

I'd love to use the same tools as professional designers, but they've become too expensive.

Re:Subscription Hell by madeofpalk on Sunday May 06, 2018 @04:16PM (#17008266)
They never became more expensive. They were extremely expensive to begin with and now they’re a lot cheaper. Previously it was like 500€ or so? That's too much for the casual user as well.

Here’s the reality. I used to pirate Adobe software because there was no way I was going to pay 1500k or whatever Photoshop was. Adobe got $0 from me.

Now I subscribe to get access to Photoshop. Adobe now gets £100 from me a year. I’m not the only person I know who went through this.

Of course, cheaper alternatives always existed. Adobe’s adoptance of subscription pricing hasn’t changed that.

Re:Subscription Hell by jakobegger on Sunday May 06, 2018 @04:44PM (#17008410)
I just checked the illustrator website. One year costs 287,77€. So it's only cheaper if you updated at least every two years. But I use my software a lot longer than that.

Software used to be an investment. At university, our physics department had a lot of old computers standing around, whose only purpose was to run some specific legacy software that was no longer maintained, but still worked perfectly.

During my time there, I convinced the theoretical physics department to buy a few Illustrator licenses so we could make better diagrams. I think the academic license cost 300€ per seat. They probably never updated, but I'd assume they still have a PC somewhere with one of those licenses installed, and if someone has a PDF from Inkscape with an incorrect Color Profile, they could still use that machine to fix it.

I think you underestimate how many people use old software out there. Sure, we tech folks update every year, but people who work outside of the tech bubble don't always upgrade a system that's working perfectly fine.

Re:Subscription Hell by tokyodude on Sunday May 06, 2018 @09:28PM (#17009764)
they are way way more expensive now. I only upgraded every other version so $199 every 4 years or $50 a year. current Photoshop subscriptions is $239 a year or nearly 5x the price
Re:Subscription Hell by jjeaff on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @01:09AM (#17027521)
Where are you getting your prices? I never remember being able to buy photoshop for $199. I remember it more like $600+. And the website shows $120 annually and that includes Photoshop AND lightroom AND 20GB of cloud storage.

If you need more than just photoshop, the deal is even better.

https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/plans.html

Re:Subscription Hell by madeofpalk on Monday May 07, 2018 @05:38AM (#17011408)
Honestly, the price I actually pay surprised me. I looked it up on my statement and I’m only paying £8.32/month (excluding VAT) for Photoshop.