If you want to fight for real, look at aggressive combat styles, like Krav Maga or Systema, which try to deal as much dammage as possible, in the shortest ammount of time, without considering the concequences to the opponent (= possible death). By the way, these are banned in UFC, beacuse they are too dangerous to the opponent. UFC is still a spectator sport.
Note: I'm an ex aikido practitioner and a current krav maga practitioner.
Correct. Self defense should more or less follow this pattern:
1. Situation Awareness (being aware of danger)
2. Avoid (leaving before trouble occurs)
3. De-escalate (using words)
4. Evade (run)
5. Force
In the real world, if you want something really effective without any pretensions to being a sport or an art or anything, do Krav Maga.
If my memory serves me right, Jiu-Jitsu wasn't used in the professional (western) fighting scene for quite a while. Today it's pretty much a must-have for MMA.
The same goes the other way around. Being an expert in Jiu-Jitsu means squat when your opponent is holding a gun, and standing 10m away from you. In other words: different flavours of martial arts/self-defence have different applications, though I would certainly consider some to be very ineffective in most situations.
We agree about that. The thing is, if Aikido could deliver what it promises, namely that you are able to effortlessly throw people to the ground when they try to strike you, then you could be sure fighters would use those techniques.
You throw a hardened fighter through the air and he'll hit the fence or the canvas and bounce back up.
This is precisely what you don't want to do, Aikidoka or otherwise. You want to gain control and retain it for the full 5 minutes.
> This is precisely what you don't want to do, Aikidoka or otherwise.
I'm sorry, but are you joking? I don't think you have even watched 5 minutes of MMA (and I'm certain you've never trained) if you actually believe that.
I think dulcimer would be a more appropriate analogy.
I can't speak for the efficacy of Aikido against an actual trained fighter in some other code, but if it worked the way it was meant to you'd pretty much be watching one guy dodging another guys attacks until eventually he pins him in an arm lock. Fight over.
It's like using a slipper to bang a nail into a wall. Yeah it kind of works but that's not what it's for ...