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Re:The 8000th Busy Beaver number eludes ZF set theory (2016) by contourtrails on Thursday May 03, 2018 @04:39PM (#16989736)
It's not really that way.

The universe has produced things that basically must exist given the laws of physics (when certain chemicals exist together under certain conditions we know they will react in certain ways, etc).

We are one of those things, and the things we make are things that we are compelled to make by our very nature.

So it's not chance. Our universe as constructed necessarily gives rise to the things we see and experience.

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Re:The 8000th Busy Beaver number eludes ZF set theory (2016) by lallysingh on Thursday May 03, 2018 @04:51PM (#16989839)
So the universe is deterministic and nothing happens by chance? I think this is essentially arguing definitions of terms.
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Re:The 8000th Busy Beaver number eludes ZF set theory (2016) by gradys on Thursday May 03, 2018 @07:10PM (#16990842)
It doesn't need to be deterministic, it just needs to be biased.
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Re:The 8000th Busy Beaver number eludes ZF set theory (2016) by pdpi on Thursday May 03, 2018 @05:34PM (#16990185)
It's more akin to arguing for the anthropic principle.
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Re:The 8000th Busy Beaver number eludes ZF set theory (2016) by contourtrails on Thursday May 03, 2018 @10:20PM (#16991747)
I'm not arguing about anything, I'm just stating facts
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