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Re:The Helium Factor and Hard Drive Failure Rates by jarvist on Thursday May 03, 2018 @04:21PM (#16989559)
It's much easier physically to build something which can hold e.g. +0.1 atmosphere helium, than resist imploding against -1.0 atmosphere. Practically speaking, pumping down to vacuum is a slow process, whereas you can flush with an inert gas. Finally, hard-drive heads actually float on lamina of gas; this is one of the reasons that normal open-circuit hard drives have a maximum operating altitude.
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Re:The Helium Factor and Hard Drive Failure Rates by rconti on Thursday May 03, 2018 @04:32PM (#16989658)
Wait, if it's +0.1 atm helium (for example), what happens if it develops a slight leak, a leak from which helium molecules can escape but air molecules cannot? once the pressure reaches equilibrium, there would be no reason for additional helium to escape, and because air can't enter.... then what?
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Re:The Helium Factor and Hard Drive Failure Rates by rleigh on Thursday May 03, 2018 @04:59PM (#16989907)
That isn't how it works though--look up partial pressures of gases. Helium will continue to escape until its partial pressure is at equilibrium with the external environment, i.e. near to zero, and the external gases will enter until they are at equilibrium with the internal environment. At that point the partial pressure of each gas will be equal on both sides.
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Re:The Helium Factor and Hard Drive Failure Rates by ak217 on Thursday May 03, 2018 @05:29PM (#16990156)
What happens to these helium hard drives if you repeatedly cycle the pressure, like by taking the hard drive on an airplane?
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Re:The Helium Factor and Hard Drive Failure Rates by rleigh on Friday May 04, 2018 @03:59AM (#16992932)
Since the partial pressure of helium at ground level and flight level is essentially the same (≈0) there should be very little change, providing the seals are intact. Since they are very securely sealed to contain the helium, changes to the external pressure, unless extreme, should not have any significant effect.
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Re:The Helium Factor and Hard Drive Failure Rates by downrightmike on Thursday May 03, 2018 @04:56PM (#16989889)
He states that they see one drive that is between 94-99%, but that may be a sensor issue. You'd lose the power savings.
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Re:The Helium Factor and Hard Drive Failure Rates by fulafel on Friday May 04, 2018 @12:30AM (#16992195)
Nit: those are not percentages indicating how much helium left, just some undocumented SMART attribute "raw values", there is no direct way to find out their meaning. (This is what the article text implies too).

The raw attribute values could be for example 100 = good 99 = moderate 98 = degraded, or a log scale similar to decibels etc. Or it could be a bitfield that has no meaning as a decimal number. etc

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Re:The Helium Factor and Hard Drive Failure Rates by the_cat_kittles on Friday May 04, 2018 @01:21AM (#16992366)
would that still be a problem if you pulled a vacuum outside the drive as well? like put the whole thing in a chamber?
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