Re:Both in rich and poor countries, universal health care br...
by dragonwriter on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @07:50PM
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> On the extrapolation, of course they are all simplistic and wrong, both mine and yours. You are capping the NHE of GDP to cap medicare
No, I'm not, I'm using the current expenditures as the projection baseline. I'm clearly not using the current NHE share of GDP to cap Medicare because the projection (24% of GDP) is greater than the current NHE share of GDP.
> as if the expansion of medicare were going to eliminate out of pocket or private health.
No, you made a claim about Medicare expenditures being 40-50% of GDP if it covered the whole population, not other expenditures. Now you're moving the goalposts (and still not supporting your mutating guess with any actual concrete basis.)
> We cant know, its messy and even expert economists cannot get this right: but it has to be in the order of magnitude of 25 to 40% of gdp.
Well, that's a sudden drop in your estimate of what now seems to be total NHE from your earlier claim that Medicare expenditures alone would be 40-50% of GDP. Another round of this and you'll be conceding costs below the current 18% of GDP.
No, I'm not, I'm using the current expenditures as the projection baseline. I'm clearly not using the current NHE share of GDP to cap Medicare because the projection (24% of GDP) is greater than the current NHE share of GDP.
> as if the expansion of medicare were going to eliminate out of pocket or private health.
No, you made a claim about Medicare expenditures being 40-50% of GDP if it covered the whole population, not other expenditures. Now you're moving the goalposts (and still not supporting your mutating guess with any actual concrete basis.)
> We cant know, its messy and even expert economists cannot get this right: but it has to be in the order of magnitude of 25 to 40% of gdp.
Well, that's a sudden drop in your estimate of what now seems to be total NHE from your earlier claim that Medicare expenditures alone would be 40-50% of GDP. Another round of this and you'll be conceding costs below the current 18% of GDP.