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Re:U.S. Supreme Court to hear case about who gets paid in cl... by jacquesm on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @12:03PM (#16968254)
I don't even think Stanford and Harvard fit the bill of being 'privacy non profits'.

Also quite surprising that Google even bothered to defend themselves in the first place, you have to have sunk pretty low already not to realize that sharing search queries with third parties is an invasion of privacy post the AOL search engine scandal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AOL_search_data_leak

Re:U.S. Supreme Court to hear case about who gets paid in cl... by ajross on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @01:15PM (#16969033)
> Also quite surprising that Google even bothered to defend themselves in the first place

Uh, they settled. There was no case defended in court, they cut a deal. That's what this is about. The settlement paid off the named plaintiffs and their attorneys, and gave money to some groups working toward this particular issue as non-profits. And everyone involved thought that was OK.

But the plaintiffs in this suit say that this was inappropriate and the damages should have been paid to those harmed and not to charities that claim to represent their interests. But the challenge itself is not filed on their behalf either.

Fundamentally this is an attack on the privacy groups, and more broadly on the idea of a class action settlement at all. Those are political goals. This is fundamentally a politically motivated suit.

But it's an interesting legal question nonetheless, IMHO.

Re:U.S. Supreme Court to hear case about who gets paid in cl... by cosmie on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @02:29PM (#16969890)
> This is fundamentally a politically motivated suit.

Let me start with saying I agree fully with this.

But I don't necessarily agree with it being a broad attack on the idea of a class action settlement. [1] and [2] give decent breakdowns of why this settlement was problematic. The charities chosen were themselves political choices - it was distributed to convenient charities to both sides. Some were charities Google were already known to give funding/donations to, and the other were law schools which had ties to the plaintiff's lawyers.

If you're going to invoke the cy pres doctrine on a class action settlement, don't make the recipient selection of the charitable donations so obviously politically motivated. If you're just going to leverage cy pres doctrine to divert class action funds to favored recipients, then be ready to potentially have the cy pres doctrine re-examined and criteria tightened.

[1] https://searchengineland.com/google-involved-in-supreme-cour... [2] https://www.wsj.com/articles/supreme-court-will-take-a-close...

Re:U.S. Supreme Court to hear case about who gets paid in cl... by ajross on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @02:33PM (#16969940)
> But I don't necessarily agree with it being a broad attack on the idea of a class action settlement.

That doesn't really square with the evidence though. I mean, the points you cite are in fact arguments in this case, and I agree they're interesting legal arguments. But they don't explain why the case was brought.

I think it's reasonably clear that the plaintiffs here (not the ones in the original suit!) don't really care about whether or not millions of Google users get compensated a few dollars. What the plaintiffs want is a broad SCOTUS precedent putting a new requirement on class action settlements, and thus making future class action cases harder (i.e. more expensive, more risky) to pursue.

Re:U.S. Supreme Court to hear case about who gets paid in cl... by mark212 on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @07:36PM (#16972759)
very much this last comment (but to be clear, they're not "plaintiffs" they're the appellants / petitioners; at the trial court they were "objectors").

Ted Frank has been trying to radically remake class action law for years. He raises money for his non-profit expressly for this purpose.

Re:U.S. Supreme Court to hear case about who gets paid in cl... by mark212 on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @07:34PM (#16972744)
no, there was a case in court. It was litigated for 3+ years before Google decided to settle. Ted Frank filed an objection, which the trial judge denied. He then took it up on appeal.

So yes, the appeal is most definitely politically motivated. But the original suit was not.