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Re:Jan Koum to leave after broad clashes with Facebook by sanderjd on Monday April 30, 2018 @07:41PM (#16963482)
55 * $100,000 is already $5.5 million. Revenue of $10M/year seems pretty tight to me, for a 55 person company.
Re:Jan Koum to leave after broad clashes with Facebook by kbenson on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @12:53AM (#16964670)
Not to mention the video someone posted beloew from an engineer talking about Erlang there in 2014 has some interesting numbers. Christmas/New years is peak, and on Christmas Eve they were maxing out at 146GB/s out.

If we assume they maybe averages 75% of that over 6 hours, that's 146Gb/s * (60606)s / 8bytes/byte * 0.75 * 0.05dolars/GB = $14,782.50 for a 6 hour period (estimate).

That's highest listed bandwidth tier price for Azure, I'm sure they would pay less for a number of reasons. But let's just say that $10k for a whole day may not be out of the realm of possibility. That puts bandwidth costs possibly North of $3 million a year. Even at $1 million, that's a lot of money.

Re:Jan Koum to leave after broad clashes with Facebook by MichaelGG on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @03:47AM (#16965268)
Ok but a serious company wouldn't pay per byte if they were trying to save money. They could buy that much connectivity for like 50k a month. (Though they'd need to get some switches and have a network engineer.)

And if that's audio/video Vs just text, clever NAT hole punching techniques could reduce it if truly needed.

But, it seems WhatsApp was on SoftLayer? In that case their costs might have been vastly higher.

Re:Jan Koum to leave after broad clashes with Facebook by paxy on Monday April 30, 2018 @07:45PM (#16963514)
Real costs per employee are 2-3x the salary anyways.
Re:Jan Koum to leave after broad clashes with Facebook by kbenson on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @12:27AM (#16964594)
I find that hard to swallow for a small company size, such as being discussed here. Do you have a reference or some reasoning to support this? I'm interested to know where it comes from.
Re:Jan Koum to leave after broad clashes with Facebook by ghaff on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @03:31AM (#16965196)
Benefits, office space, equipment, T&E, employment taxes, etc. This is an old article but it suggests about 2.7x. [1] I agree that it might be less for a startup assuming a frugal startup but it's probably at least 2x salary on average.

[1] http://web.mit.edu/e-club/hadzima/how-much-does-an-employee-... (This is old but nothing really substantial has changed except.)

Re:Jan Koum to leave after broad clashes with Facebook by michaelt on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @06:20AM (#16965814)
I'm not sure a ratio-to-salary is the best tool here. I mean, why would a developer on $150,000 have twice the healthcare cost, or office space cost, or equipment cost of one on $75,000?
Re:Jan Koum to leave after broad clashes with Facebook by ghaff on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @09:28AM (#16966853)
It’s just a rule of thumb and some costs do roughly scale. I’m sure there are more sophisticated calculators and spreadsheets for this sort of thing.
Re:Jan Koum to leave after broad clashes with Facebook by SmellyGeekBoy on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @04:20AM (#16965361)
I'm assuming you don't run a business. 2-3x sounds in the right ballpark to me.
Re:Jan Koum to leave after broad clashes with Facebook by wolco on Monday April 30, 2018 @11:37PM (#16964429)
Why is everyone making 100,000?
Re:Jan Koum to leave after broad clashes with Facebook by sanderjd on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @01:13AM (#16964732)
That is a very conservative mean all-in cost per employee for a group of professionals. Edit to add: in the US that is.
Re:Jan Koum to leave after broad clashes with Facebook by ghaff on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @03:33AM (#16965214)
Yes. That implies the average salary is almost certainly <$50K and maybe more like $35-40K.
Re:Jan Koum to leave after broad clashes with Facebook by SmellyGeekBoy on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @04:20AM (#16965365)
Because they are developers?
Re:Jan Koum to leave after broad clashes with Facebook by arcticfox on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @05:53AM (#16965694)
Developers would cost way more than that, especially if you factor in taxes.