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Re:Top Checklists on HN by nerdponx on Monday April 30, 2018 @08:36AM (#16958033)
I really wish people would actively avoid the fancy JavaScript SPA approach. (And I work on such an SPA.) There’s a place for them, but this is not a good demo of that place.

Or just have a button somewhere for a "basic HTML" version.

Why are modern developers and UX designers so averse to giving users control over their experience?

Re:Top Checklists on HN by csallen on Monday April 30, 2018 @11:03AM (#16959120)
Honest answer to your question: Because they have to-do lists a million miles long, and "make an HTML-only version" is often at the very bottom of that list, because it may require high investment while providing few benefits relative to other things on the to-do list. Also, because "giving users control" can mean a million different things… colors, fonts, sizes, dimensions, HTML vs JS, etc.
Re:Top Checklists on HN by chrismorgan on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @08:06AM (#16976123)
And if it’s not the same code base, it’ll probably be buggy, because it’s not the UI people normally use.

Server-side rendering of the same UI avoids that hazard, at a much lower cost.

Re:Top Checklists on HN by ryandrake on Monday April 30, 2018 @12:00PM (#16959696)
I agree with your point (here, have an upvote), but really, this should be, and already is, a browser option. Easier to do that than to get thousands of web sites to change. I know Safari has "Disable Styles" and "Disable Javascript" tucked away under the "Developer" menu of all things. Firefox has a "No Style" option somewhere in View. Would be better if it were easier to get to or even the default.
Re:Top Checklists on HN by nerdponx on Monday April 30, 2018 @03:58PM (#16961709)
Disabling JavaScript is pointless when it also disables the functionality of the website.
Re:Top Checklists on HN by dredmorbius on Monday April 30, 2018 @12:13PM (#16959819)
It's occurred to me that it may be a market seqmentation tactic. Possibly unintentional.

https://plus.google.com/104092656004159577193/posts/ikRoMcRw...