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Re:Why the F-35 Isn’t Good Enough for Japan by Guthur on Monday April 30, 2018 @01:08AM (#16955922)
Who exactly would have capability and resources to mount an invasion and then supply the necessary force to occupy a territory the size of Australia.
Re:Why the F-35 Isn’t Good Enough for Japan by greglindahl on Monday April 30, 2018 @01:11AM (#16955935)
China.

Also worth noting that the force needed to occupy a country is mainly proportional to the population.

Re:Why the F-35 Isn’t Good Enough for Japan by Trundle on Monday April 30, 2018 @01:15AM (#16955960)
Indonesia is right next door and outnumber us 10 to 1.

India and China are also reasonably close.

Re:Why the F-35 Isn’t Good Enough for Japan by shortsightedsid on Monday April 30, 2018 @01:24AM (#16955995)
The only thing we want is to beat you at cricket.

- India.

Re:Why the F-35 Isn’t Good Enough for Japan by plugger on Monday April 30, 2018 @02:40AM (#16956309)
A blue water Navy, not proximity, is what is required to invade and control Australia. India and Indonesia are a non-starter given that prerequisite, and China is probably 10-20 years away from being able to accomplish this (if they chose to do it). Plus the Chinese are more concerned with the South China Sea and regional naval superiority when compared to invading continents.

Also, Pine Gap. All of the China is coming and the US is going to leave us hanging out to dry hubbub conveniently ignores this fact.

Re:Why the F-35 Isn’t Good Enough for Japan by Trundle on Monday April 30, 2018 @03:44AM (#16956590)
Current navy size seems less relevant than what it could be if they were planning to invade Australia. If I decided to invade an island nation my first step would be to build enough boats.
Re:Why the F-35 Isn’t Good Enough for Japan by throwaway000021 on Monday April 30, 2018 @01:17AM (#16955972)
No invasion would be needed.

All thats needed is to get several thousand armed people to take control of Canberra, Sydney and Melbourne parliament and hold all the politicians under lock and key. And whilst Australia is too stunned to work out what has just happened, land ships and troops in Sydney then Melbourne.

There you have it - control of Australia.

Re:Why the F-35 Isn’t Good Enough for Japan by sien on Monday April 30, 2018 @01:53AM (#16956111)
All we need to do is put a bell on the cat!

Several thousand armed people acting in concert without detection?

The Australian military would also still exist even if such a thing could be done.

Not to mention that then landing ships in Sydney and Melbourne would not be allowed by the US.

The Australian populace wouldn't just take it either.

Re:Why the F-35 Isn’t Good Enough for Japan by manicdee on Monday April 30, 2018 @02:14AM (#16956194)
The US may decide that we are past our best before date and choose to cut and run rather than take on a land war in Asia.
Re:Why the F-35 Isn’t Good Enough for Japan by throwaway000021 on Monday April 30, 2018 @03:57AM (#16956660)
>>> Several thousand armed people acting in concert without detection?

You haven't heard of tourists?

Re:Why the F-35 Isn’t Good Enough for Japan by brazzy on Monday April 30, 2018 @03:19AM (#16956479)
You just described a (shitty and likely to fail) invasion.
Re:Why the F-35 Isn’t Good Enough for Japan by threeseed on Monday April 30, 2018 @01:15AM (#16955959)
China is a very real threat to Australia. They are already unhappy about how close we are to the US, our freedom of navigation routes through the South China Sea and our perceived anti-China rhetoric around national security.

And just to show you that they aren't messing around. They just funded the development of a port in Vanuatu which many have suspected as being suitable for future naval purposes:

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/the-great-wharf-from...

Re:Why the F-35 Isn’t Good Enough for Japan by nickpeterson on Monday April 30, 2018 @01:37AM (#16956039)
I think this would be a huge miscalculation for China. First it would enrage Western governments, especially the US and UK. Second, I'm not completely convinced China would win. Australia is a very large country, with a population that has basically nothing in common with the Chinese. It would be very difficult to stop guerilla warfare even if they controlled the cities. Plus, China knows how ridiculously complicated this kind of stuff is to win in the long run. Look at Vietnam and Korea. I think China would be more likely to attempt stronger alliances now that US leadership is basically gone for 2-6 more years.
Re:Why the F-35 Isn’t Good Enough for Japan by timb07 on Monday April 30, 2018 @01:55AM (#16956125)
If China is a threat to Australia, maybe we shouldn't have sold them the port of Darwin...