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Re:Tell HN: Sci-Hub's TLS certificate has started failing by staticassertion on Sunday April 29, 2018 @02:06PM (#16953129)
I do not see how censorship at the CA level is worse than the ISP/ DNS level. We should not discourage people from using TLS because it allows for one of many other methods to censor.

SEC takedowns have happened for years without relying on TLS.

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Re:Tell HN: Sci-Hub's TLS certificate has started failing by Xylakant on Sunday April 29, 2018 @02:38PM (#16953259)
ISP/DNS-takedowns affect only customers of a single provider. Compelling every US provider is tedious and would still not affect people in other jurisdictions. CA-levy takedowns affect everyone.
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Re:Tell HN: Sci-Hub's TLS certificate has started failing by mikeash on Sunday April 29, 2018 @05:58PM (#16954141)
A takedown against the hosting ISP would affect everyone, and DNS takedowns can involve changing the authoritative record.
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Re:Tell HN: Sci-Hub's TLS certificate has started failing by Xylakant on Monday April 30, 2018 @03:29AM (#16956517)
The site can still move to a different jurisdiction and mirrors would still work. As evidenced by various takedown attempts against Sci-Hib.
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Re:Tell HN: Sci-Hub's TLS certificate has started failing by mikeash on Monday April 30, 2018 @12:55PM (#16960207)
A site can move to a different CA and mirrors would still work.
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