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Re:Gates Foundation launches $12M Grand Challenge for univer... by Someone1234 on Saturday April 28, 2018 @09:52AM (#16947631)
> Now he gets oodles of credit for throwing the change back at humanitarian projects which sometimes bear fruit.

They're thought to have saved 6 Million lives...

Re:Gates Foundation launches $12M Grand Challenge for univer... by mpartel on Saturday April 28, 2018 @10:00AM (#16947662)
And a monopolized OS market has probably cost zero lives.

I'd let corporations get away with way worse if the profits were always used like this.

Re:Gates Foundation launches $12M Grand Challenge for univer... by ekianjo on Saturday April 28, 2018 @10:10AM (#16947707)
> I'd let corporations get away with way worse if the profits were always used like this.

You must be kidding right? Its like saying stealing is OK as long as its used well.

Re:Gates Foundation launches $12M Grand Challenge for univer... by mpartel on Saturday April 28, 2018 @10:33AM (#16947805)
Stealing from the (relatively speaking) super rich can be, in some circumstances, according to a sufficiently utilitarian moral framework. One could argue that's what progressive taxes are all about.

I admit it's hard for me to quantify the damage Microsoft's business practices have caused (any helpful links/sources?), but it's extremely difficult to imagine it being worse than not saving millions of lives.

Re:Gates Foundation launches $12M Grand Challenge for univer... by copperx on Saturday April 28, 2018 @03:58PM (#16949182)
Gates could be, with little imagination, be a modern-day Robin Hood. Stealing from those rich enough to be able to worry about computers and bit sequences, and then giving back the money to the truly needy in the world.

I have zero knowledge of ethics and philosophy, but in the grand scheme of things, when you consider humanity as a whole and ignore Silicon Valley, it's all good. Even admirable.

Re:Gates Foundation launches $12M Grand Challenge for univer... by drcode on Saturday April 28, 2018 @10:06AM (#16947688)
It's a counterfactual- I suspect we'd have more advanced technology in other sectors and more global economic opportunity across the board if Microsoft hadn't abused their monopoly power and slowed progress in computing advancements, which could also have saved lives indirectly... but we'll never know.
Re:Gates Foundation launches $12M Grand Challenge for univer... by shawnz on Saturday April 28, 2018 @10:39AM (#16947831)
> slowed progress in computing advancements

What? How does your operating system limit the kind of computing that you can do?

Furthermore, how can you say that Microsoft's monopoly position didn't actually allow them to accelerate the progress of computing even further than their competitors might have otherwise?

Re:Gates Foundation launches $12M Grand Challenge for univer... by drcode on Saturday April 28, 2018 @12:49PM (#16948451)
Look up what "counterfactual" means. Sure, it's possible the world is a better place because of the Microsoft monopoly, just as the Microsoft apologists claim.
Re:Gates Foundation launches $12M Grand Challenge for univer... by setquk on Saturday April 28, 2018 @10:08AM (#16947698)
I’d argue the business practices of Microsoft in the 1990s and 2000s have set the technology industry back at least a decade. The side effect of this is lives of toil instead of productivity. May have saved six million lives but cost a billion people a future they could have had.
Re:Gates Foundation launches $12M Grand Challenge for univer... by mpartel on Saturday April 28, 2018 @11:06AM (#16947975)
Could you elaborate? Setting us back by a decade seems like a pretty bold claim. And I say this as someone that, on balance, despises the Microsoft of the past (for monopolistic behaviour) and present (for spyware and normalizing hardware lockdown).
Re:Gates Foundation launches $12M Grand Challenge for univer... by setquk on Saturday April 28, 2018 @11:20AM (#16948067)
It's definitely a bold claim and one people don't want to discuss. Bar the points you mentioned, mainly that they seriously stunted the rise of the Internet and world wide web. When it did take off, due to market share and mindset, they actively locked people into their vision of it. People are still, right now in 2018, trying to escape some of their grasp. There's still ActiveX out there. Plus the damage they did to Java for example.