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Re:The Era of Very Low Inflation and Interest Rates May Be N... by refurb on Thursday April 26, 2018 @04:05PM (#16935175)
Back in the 1970's a 12% interest rate on your mortgage was considered pretty good!

It basically reduces buying power for real estate. Using the google mortgage calculator and assuming a $1500 max monthly payment.

At a 3.92% (today) rate you can borrow ~$320K At an 8% rate you can borrow ~$200K

A 38% decrease in buying power. It's already happening in Canada as the gov't is trying to slow down the real estate market by making buyer qualify at a rate 2% higher than what it is today.

Re:The Era of Very Low Inflation and Interest Rates May Be N... by Retric on Thursday April 26, 2018 @04:20PM (#16935302)
It also made the idea of a starter home more meaningful. Your monthly payments quickly became meaningless especially if you got any kind of a promotion.

At 5% inflation if you pay 1000$/month in year 0 it feels like 614$ / month in year 10 and 377$ / month in year 20.

At 1-2% inflation the loss of the interest tax deduction over time as you pay more principle and less interest means home lone feels about as expensive in year 0 and year 20.

Re:The Era of Very Low Inflation and Interest Rates May Be N... by shostack on Thursday April 26, 2018 @11:31PM (#16938271)
Right, but isn't the distinction that you are paying principle, which in essence buying equity? It isn't free cash flow, but there's a big difference between putting money towards principle and paying a bank interest.
Re:The Era of Very Low Inflation and Interest Rates May Be N... by Retric on Friday April 27, 2018 @11:13AM (#16941363)
I am not saying it's reasonable or unreasonable for home interest to be tax free. Just that the difference impacts your disposable income.
Re:The Era of Very Low Inflation and Interest Rates May Be N... by smnrchrds on Thursday April 26, 2018 @04:14PM (#16935251)
> as the gov't is trying to slow down the real estate market

This is not the reason for mortgage stress test, just one of its effects. The main reason for the regulation is to avoid a tsunami of bankruptcies when interest rates eventually increase.

Re:The Era of Very Low Inflation and Interest Rates May Be N... by encoderer on Thursday April 26, 2018 @04:33PM (#16935447)
These are not fixed rate loans?
Re:The Era of Very Low Inflation and Interest Rates May Be N... by winthrowe on Thursday April 26, 2018 @04:38PM (#16935512)
You can't really get a rate fixed over the entire amortization period in Canada, our 'fixed rate' mortgages are a 5 year lockin typically.
Re:The Era of Very Low Inflation and Interest Rates May Be N... by kylemuir on Thursday April 26, 2018 @04:39PM (#16935523)
When those fixed rates end and they have to refix a ton of overleveraged people will force mortgagee sales.

In Auckland there's been talk of that for at least 5-6 years. For example, people I personally know only earn $80-90k/yr and yet own a $500k house (absolute entry level livable house in Auckland). They also got in under our old rules which meant they only needed 5% deposit instead of the 20% required now.

They're only being propped up by their record low interest rates. If those interest rates went up 2-3% they'd be in serious trouble.

EDIT: for more context the average fixed period for any home loan in NZ is roughly 2-3 yrs. The term is a 30 year term typically.

Re:The Era of Very Low Inflation and Interest Rates May Be N... by encoderer on Friday April 27, 2018 @05:05PM (#16944318)
In USA it’s common for loans to be fixed rate for life of loan.
Re:The Era of Very Low Inflation and Interest Rates May Be N... by toasterlovin on Thursday April 26, 2018 @05:00PM (#16935727)
> It basically reduces buying power for real estate.

But real estate is unlike a lot of other goods in that it's value is significantly driven by what other people are willing to pay, rather than what it intrinsically costs to produce. Thus, as your buying power goes down, so does everybody else's.