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Re:Hunger Is a Gatekeeper of Pain in the Brain by firethief on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @07:59PM (#16917736)
Only as a matter of degree I suppose. For valuable enough knowledge, I'd support medical experiments on unconsenting human subjects too if it were the only option. But this is a very hypothetical situation; the former bar and the latter constraint are extraordinarily unlikely ever to coincide (they are very rarely met even separately).
Re:Hunger Is a Gatekeeper of Pain in the Brain by komali2 on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @08:23PM (#16917822)
That is the problem with these hypotheticals, yea. In what circumstance do we absolutely need to perform human experimentation on unconsenting humans to get results?

But because these are my favorite too-drunk-at-a-bar conversations I wanna give it a crack. Here's a couple things I think require human experimentation

1. Creative a definitive best-practice guide to child rearing. I.e., hitting yes/no? Shouting at yes/no?

2. Fully understanding primitive/baseline human psychology absent of culture, which could help us understand if there is for example biological morality, how to teach language, how languages form. Can't see how to do this without abandoning a child in the wilderness.

3. Determining best-case formula for human tribal organization. I.e. what's the most effective leadership traits, organizational schemes, rule enforcement mechanisms... Could be figured out with Vaults ;)

4. Is post-death ressurection possible and at what point? I suppose you can get consent before death, but does that count when that individual terminates?

Can you think of any more? What are your thoughts on what would be "worth it?"

Re:Hunger Is a Gatekeeper of Pain in the Brain by wavefunction on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @08:32PM (#16917866)
Your first two examples don't even seem scientific, or at least incredibly difficult to structure as a study in a truly scientific way.
Re:Hunger Is a Gatekeeper of Pain in the Brain by komali2 on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @09:26PM (#16918057)
Reduce for simplification:

How do we scientifically demonstrate effective means of raising children without experimentation on children?