Re:How Windmills as Wide as Jumbo Jets Are Making Clean Ener...
by TeMPOraL on Monday April 23, 2018 @10:00AM
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Also, I recall reading that if you run undersea cables with AC, the sea water sucks out energy from them.
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Re:How Windmills as Wide as Jumbo Jets Are Making Clean Ener...
by gehsty on Monday April 23, 2018 @11:10AM
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Can’t tell if trolling or not.
The cables have water barriers so the conductors + insulation remain quite dry.
Re:How Windmills as Wide as Jumbo Jets Are Making Clean Ener...
by Analemma_ on Monday April 23, 2018 @11:22AM
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I believe the parent meant that the alternating current creates an electric field which is then absorbed by the water, leading to energy loss. This happens to some extent to all AC transmission, but I don't know enough to say if seawater+AC is a particularly bad combination. It would make sense though, because it's more conductive.
EDIT: brandmeyer's comment explains it well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16903431
Re:How Windmills as Wide as Jumbo Jets Are Making Clean Ener...
by TeMPOraL on Monday April 23, 2018 @11:34AM
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Yes, that's precisely the thing I was referring to. Wasn't sure about the correct terminology (not an EE) so I didn't try to make the comment sciency-souding :).
Re:How Windmills as Wide as Jumbo Jets Are Making Clean Ener...
by gehsty on Monday April 23, 2018 @11:56AM
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I work installing these cables and never heard this discussed, maybe at the voltages / transmission subsea cables work at (220kV, 1000s of amps) makes this effect negligible?
Re:How Windmills as Wide as Jumbo Jets Are Making Clean Ener...
by TeMPOraL on Monday April 23, 2018 @11:59AM
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I honestly don't know. I'm not an EE, I only reported on what I've heard reported on the topic (and that passed my "basic physics sniff test").
Re:How Windmills as Wide as Jumbo Jets Are Making Clean Ener...
by rsynnott on Monday April 23, 2018 @05:18PM
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Are they AC? My impression was that practically all vaguely modern undersea cables are high voltage DC.
Re:How Windmills as Wide as Jumbo Jets Are Making Clean Ener...
by gehsty on Monday April 23, 2018 @05:41PM
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It depends, when talking about interconnecting cables between countries, yes the majority are DC, both to minimise transmission losses and also to tie together grids working at different frequencies....
In terms of km installed I think it will be HVAC just from the sheer number of offshore windfarms built over the last 10yrs in Europe. These things can be huge - 60km in length, 220kV ~1500A....