XS7 – A compact JavaScript engine for embedded applications

Re:XS7 – A compact JavaScript engine for embedded applications by positivecomment on Friday April 20, 2018 @03:42PM (#16887904)

This is very cool. I hope one day someone creates a basic DOM for this with good CSS support and then we'd have the mini-electron. I hope that a very limited subset of the features of a browser (no downloads, tabs, networking, security contexts and everything else which would be irrelevant for desktop apps) can be implemented with few orders of magnitude less lines of code.

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Re:XS7 – A compact JavaScript engine for embedded applications by c-smile on Friday April 20, 2018 @07:02PM (#16889010)

In fact I am looking on something like XS7 for my Sciter (https://sciter.com) to provide ability to run <script type=text/javascript>.

Sciter is an implementation of HTML(~5)/CSS(~3) and DOM/layout/rendering. As for now it has its own JS alike script and VM and is contained in single DLL < 5mb all together.

So "yes", mini-electron is feasible and exists already I would say.

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Re:XS7 – A compact JavaScript engine for embedded applications by nickers on Saturday April 21, 2018 @04:27AM (#16890513)

Sciter is awesome.

I found it too hard to start writing something with TIScript, maybe if there was some step-by-step tutorial it could be easier.

> So "yes", mini-electron is feasible and exists already I would say.

I believe you could became big player in "web to desktop" market if only sciter had JS & DOM support. That would give you access to existing code and make sciter almost drop in replacement for nw.js or electron.

//edit: formatting mistake

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Re:XS7 – A compact JavaScript engine for embedded applications by maxpert on Friday April 20, 2018 @07:51PM (#16889213)

Have you considered opening up the source code for Sciter? You can easily get a significant amount of apps just due to the size and still maintain "paid and supported" version.

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Re:XS7 – A compact JavaScript engine for embedded applications by c-smile on Friday April 20, 2018 @08:38PM (#16889362)

I am considering that too. The only thing that is worrying me is that it may take quite a lot of time/effort to publish it.

Yet, I am not that good in "legaleze" language, GPL vs BSD vs paid options, etc.

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Re:XS7 – A compact JavaScript engine for embedded applications by vijaybritto on Saturday April 21, 2018 @01:20AM (#16890105)

Pls seek help and capitalise on the current situation in desktop apps. We need low memory consuming apps seriously

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Re:XS7 – A compact JavaScript engine for embedded applications by lprader on Friday April 20, 2018 @04:43PM (#16888311)

Yeah, that would be interesting. Right now the Moddable SDK comes with the Piu application framework, which has cascading styles, inspired by CSS. You can read all about that here: https://github.com/Moddable-OpenSource/moddable/blob/public/...

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Re:XS7 – A compact JavaScript engine for embedded applications by rstat1 on Friday April 20, 2018 @04:14PM (#16888131)

I'd hardly consider networking support to be irrelevant to a desktop app.

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Re:XS7 – A compact JavaScript engine for embedded applications by positivecomment on Friday April 20, 2018 @04:41PM (#16888306)

I meant in the context of the GUI, then all data would be exchanged through the native bindings.

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Re:XS7 – A compact JavaScript engine for embedded applications by dmitrygr on Friday April 20, 2018 @05:05PM (#16888436)

   > security contexts and everything else which would be irrelevant for desktop apps

I hope that was dark sarcasm, or that you do not write software. Security is never irrelevant! Never!

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Re:XS7 – A compact JavaScript engine for embedded applications by scrollaway on Friday April 20, 2018 @05:09PM (#16888455)

There's a lot of web browser security features which are only relevant when the code is untrusted, when assets are fetched over http/https instead of bundled locally, etc.

GP is likely overestimating how much "bloat" could actually be dropped but your comment is uninformed.

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Re:XS7 – A compact JavaScript engine for embedded applications by dmitrygr on Friday April 20, 2018 @05:11PM (#16888461)

ALL code is untrusted

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Re:XS7 – A compact JavaScript engine for embedded applications by abritinthebay on Friday April 20, 2018 @06:56PM (#16888984)

That's... somewhat hardcore for most applications.

Also it's also not what most people mean by "untrusted". From a low level hardware standpoint though... assuming user-land code isn't trustworthy IS a good guideline.

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Re:XS7 – A compact JavaScript engine for embedded applications by scrollaway on Friday April 20, 2018 @09:20PM (#16889504)

Purposefully misunderstanding what people write in an effort to be a smartass is a sure-fire way of creating security issues.

No, "ALL" code is not untrusted. There's varying degrees of trust. I'd encourage you to stop trying to win the argument through platitudes and do some research instead, but I'm not sure you're interested.

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