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Re:Wells Fargo Hit with $1B in Fines by Someone1234 on Friday April 20, 2018 @02:16PM (#16887155)
> I should be able to partition my money into several lightweight accounts - one for groceries, one for home expenses, investment, etc

Heck not even real "Accounts" (in the traditional banking sense) but just "funds" or "virtual accounts." I should be able to put $5/month into a "waste of money" fund, and then flag specific transactions against that balance when I use it, or as you said have a virtual credit card that goes straight out of my virtual "waste of money" fund.

It really is surprising how little innovation occurs in the banking space. I want more tools to track expenditures and money usage, silo-ing money virtually is an obvious way to do that, but yet nobody really offers it!

Re:Wells Fargo Hit with $1B in Fines by kolinko on Friday April 20, 2018 @06:31PM (#16888875)
The innovation occurs, just outside of US for some reason.

When I was a student, in 2001, Poland, I had such functionality - I had separate sub-accounts, each one of them with a dedicated IBAN number, receiving funds.

My monthly allowance from the parents went to one account, my payments from clients (freelance programming) went to another one. From that I distributed the money into another account for holiday savings, and to a spending account with a dedicated and free wire transfer of $5/day for daily spending - the only one I attached a debit card to.

Once I got a browser in my phone, I think around 2004, in case of emergency (as in "standing in line at the store, and discovered I'm $2 short"), I could transfer the money between various accounts instantly.

Another cool thing was that since my father had an account in the same bank, I received all the wire transfers from him instantly. As in, I call him, ask him for extra $100 for something, he says "hold on", opens up bank account on his browser, sends the money, and I instantly get a text message that the funds are received, and I can politely say "thanks dad, I got it" before disconnecting :)

Using past tense, because that was all in 2001-2004. 16-18 years ago. Right now I think all the major banks offer that, so nobody considers it a big deal any more. Oh, and now we have instant inter-bank transfers, but they cost "a lot" - like a flat fee €1, so people usually send the regular free ones, which take <1 work day to get delivered (<3h if you send them between 7am and 5pm) - regardless of which bank you are using.

Re:Wells Fargo Hit with $1B in Fines by nicoburns on Friday April 20, 2018 @09:32PM (#16889543)
In the UK we actually have free instant inter-bank transfers. I send money using the app from one bank to the other bank and get the push notification from the second bank confirming I have recieved the money before the UI in the app from the first bank has even confirmed the money has sent.
Re:Wells Fargo Hit with $1B in Fines by cspags on Friday April 20, 2018 @02:21PM (#16887209)
I highly recommend checking out https://www.youneedabudget.com for the ability to do this and more. (No affiliation, just a very satisfied customer)
Re:Wells Fargo Hit with $1B in Fines by Someone1234 on Friday April 20, 2018 @02:26PM (#16887269)
Does that require giving them your banking online login details?
Re:Wells Fargo Hit with $1B in Fines by jahabrewer on Friday April 20, 2018 @02:56PM (#16887536)
Buy YNAB 4 (aka YNAB Classic). You'll have to import transactions manually, but I much prefer it to their subscription SaaS offering. I've used it for five years and love it.

I use a python script to download most transactions from banks/credit cards. https://sites.google.com/site/pocketsense/home/msmoneyfixp1/...

There are enough people who do this that you can figure out how to access the OFX endpoint for most financial institutions.

Re:Wells Fargo Hit with $1B in Fines by aeorgnoieang on Friday April 20, 2018 @03:13PM (#16887675)
You can import transactions manually into NYNAB (the new web version).

One problem I have with relying on OFX is that I have a nagging suspicion that it's not as 'official' as the statements. If there were a discrepancy between the two, I'd worry that I wouldn't be able to resolve it in my favor without having reviewed (and thus downloaded and reconciled against) the statements.

Re:Wells Fargo Hit with $1B in Fines by komali2 on Friday April 20, 2018 @03:22PM (#16887738)
I was in your same boat until the SaaS offering started really figuring out how to do credit cards. Now, it's finally the better of the two options for me.
Re:Wells Fargo Hit with $1B in Fines by bombledmonk on Friday April 20, 2018 @02:49PM (#16887467)
There's yet another thing that's needed industry wide. Oauth or similar concept with read only access to a data api.
Re:Wells Fargo Hit with $1B in Fines by woolvalley on Friday April 20, 2018 @04:20PM (#16888172)
We used to with something like quicken, but most banks half ass it.

I really think the state of how bad consumer bank integration tech is has led to this reality of login and scrape that you have with yodlee & co.

Re:Wells Fargo Hit with $1B in Fines by madamelic on Friday April 20, 2018 @03:05PM (#16887616)
plaid.com
Re:Wells Fargo Hit with $1B in Fines by mwexler on Friday April 20, 2018 @03:57PM (#16888012)
And Yodlee. Quovo. Tink. Finicity. A zillion others. This is where modern banking data is moving, for better or worse. I think it's better, but the world is still on it's first steps in this "more open" financial data linking space.
Re:Wells Fargo Hit with $1B in Fines by sangnoir on Friday April 20, 2018 @08:55PM (#16889428)
plaid asks for your online banking password.
Re:Wells Fargo Hit with $1B in Fines by komali2 on Friday April 20, 2018 @03:21PM (#16887734)
If you want auto-import, yes.

Otherwise, it requires only an email (and that you pay them 5$/monthly somehow. Paypal, credit card, whatever).

If you don't want auto-import (which doesn't even work for my credit union anyway), you can uploads .csvs, or manually input your transactions.

Re:Wells Fargo Hit with $1B in Fines by gascan on Friday April 20, 2018 @02:40PM (#16887396)
If you're concerned about that, you can always go with desktop software. Quicken will do "virtual accounts".
Re:Wells Fargo Hit with $1B in Fines by dredmorbius on Friday April 20, 2018 @03:45PM (#16887935)
Or Free Software alternatives such as GNUcash.

LWN have a current "Grumpy Editor" series article on Beancount:

https://lwn.net/Articles/751874/

And an older one from 2009:

https://lwn.net/Articles/314577/

Re:Wells Fargo Hit with $1B in Fines by cocoablazing on Friday April 20, 2018 @03:36PM (#16887845)
The correct term would be “facilities”, but this jargon is only used for corporate/UHNW clients with complex credit needs IME.