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Re:Google changes its messaging strategy again: Goodbye to A... by bb88 on Friday April 20, 2018 @03:37AM (#16882876)
Because people want party parrots. And there isn't a standard to send party parrots through XMPP. /s

Okay, a little snarky, but it makes a point. Chat programs have a lot of proprietary features that won't translate through XMPP.

Re:Google changes its messaging strategy again: Goodbye to A... by SamWhited on Friday April 20, 2018 @10:10AM (#16884890)
Most of the features these programs have translate fine; you won't have a good experience unless you're using their client or another client with a similar feature set (though things to tend to degrade gracefully), but that's fine for the most part. It still gives you a nice realtime API for developing other stuff on top of it, most people will use your clients anyways, and if you're on a feature phone or something and can't use the first-party clients, you can still connect. It's a win-win.
Re:Google changes its messaging strategy again: Goodbye to A... by stephenr on Friday April 20, 2018 @09:43AM (#16884666)
> Chat programs have a lot of proprietary features that won't translate through XMPP.

Most chat networks are still built around xmpp - they’re just not federated and likely using private extensions.

Re:Google changes its messaging strategy again: Goodbye to A... by LaGrange on Friday April 20, 2018 @04:25AM (#16883077)
Pretty sure XMPP included extensions for sending arbitrary HTML and binary attachments. Now, support for janky mobile connections, that's another matter.
Re:Google changes its messaging strategy again: Goodbye to A... by SamWhited on Friday April 20, 2018 @10:08AM (#16884870)
XMPPs actually been really good at this for quite some time; despite XML being a bit verbose, it compresses very well and it's had TCP like stream management at the application protocol layer for ages, among other things. It was pretty bad at low-bandwidth connections in the early 2000s, but now there are people running it over extremely low bandwidth high frequency radio, so a janky phone connection is no problem.
Re:Google changes its messaging strategy again: Goodbye to A... by hueving on Friday April 20, 2018 @03:54AM (#16882936)
XMPP had extensions just for that crap. The trick was getting clients that all supported them.
Re:Google changes its messaging strategy again: Goodbye to A... by bb88 on Friday April 20, 2018 @03:56AM (#16882943)
That's exactly my point. Thank you for making it for me.