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Re:Jeff Bezos' annual shareholders letter by nicoburns on Wednesday April 18, 2018 @07:24PM (#16872148)
I'm not sure what planet you live when $140k dollars is nothing. As a software developer you might be able to do better, but you are incredibly lucky. I assure you the median wage is significantly lower than that, and of course many people make minimum wage.
Re:Jeff Bezos' annual shareholders letter by scarface74 on Wednesday April 18, 2018 @07:41PM (#16872232)
In context - $140K for an experienced software engineer in a major metropolitan city isn't outrageous. A "software architect" often does hands on coding. For reference:

https://www.matrixres.com/resources/salary-survey/

If I can make $140K in metro Atlanta, where a newly built 3000 square foot house can be had for less than $350K in a nice neighborhood, why would I want to live in Seattle?

Re:Jeff Bezos' annual shareholders letter by dastbe on Wednesday April 18, 2018 @08:27PM (#16872441)
So not sure what you define as experienced (2 years, 5 years, 10 years, 20 years?) but a 5 years of experience SDE at Amazon may make that in salary, but their total compensation will be quite a bit more than that.
Re:Jeff Bezos' annual shareholders letter by toomuchtodo on Wednesday April 18, 2018 @10:09PM (#16872830)
If you hang on through your last 2 years of vesting (which is notoriously painful).
Re:Jeff Bezos' annual shareholders letter by didibus on Thursday April 19, 2018 @12:59AM (#16873435)
Don't fret, there's a good chance HQ2 comes to Atlanta and hikes those home prices. In fact, if I lived there, I'd probably make sure to buy ahead of time
Re:Jeff Bezos' annual shareholders letter by scarface74 on Thursday April 19, 2018 @06:38AM (#16874738)
There are plenty areas of metro Atlanta where the house prices are much lower than $335K for a nice size house. I purposefully chose the most affluent county in Atlanta (and one of the top 25 in the US) for comparison.

"Metro Atlanta" consists of either 5 counties or 10 depending on which definition you go by. There is so much sprawl in Atlanta and so much undeveloped land that builders will jump at the chance to build. This is still the South. The government doesn't make builders jump through as many hoops to build.

Re:Jeff Bezos' annual shareholders letter by taeric on Wednesday April 18, 2018 @07:50PM (#16872281)
Politics. Nicer weather. Better environment for women/girls in schools. :)

The weather point is, of course, tough. Seattle summers are bloody amazing. The winter sorta blows.

Re:Jeff Bezos' annual shareholders letter by hueving on Wednesday April 18, 2018 @08:43PM (#16872522)
>Politics

Says nobody that's been to Atlanta or has taken two minutes to use the internet to check preconceived notions about Georgia against the city.

https://www.myajc.com/atlanta-neighborhood-2016-presidential...

Re:Jeff Bezos' annual shareholders letter by taeric on Thursday April 19, 2018 @12:16PM (#16877135)
Apologies for not responding. I actually forgot I posted this. :(

Lived in Atlanta for many years. It is much more liberal than surrounding areas, true. However, Seattle is in another league when it comes to this sort of thing.

Which is not to say that we don't have a ways to go, either. In particular, we have some really hard problems to consider out here.

Re:Jeff Bezos' annual shareholders letter by AFNobody on Thursday April 19, 2018 @01:55AM (#16873627)
Politics isn't just local laws but also state laws.
Re:Jeff Bezos' annual shareholders letter by scarface74 on Thursday April 19, 2018 @09:29AM (#16875714)
Which state laws affect individuals more than they would n liberal states? Atlanta being such a major city makes GA very pro business. Businesses are doing a lot to keep pressure on the state to keep it from becoming more conservative.
Re:Jeff Bezos' annual shareholders letter by AFNobody on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @02:25AM (#16910352)
Laws about abortions, bathrooms, access to the social net, etc.
Re:Jeff Bezos' annual shareholders letter by AFNobody on Wednesday April 18, 2018 @08:04PM (#16872343)
The weather in Atlanta isn't much better than Seattle, if you compare season to season.

Seattle has one bad season, one good season. Atlanta is the same.

Re:Jeff Bezos' annual shareholders letter by taeric on Thursday April 19, 2018 @12:20PM (#16877171)
The weather in Atlanta is just more extreme, honestly. Which can matter a lot if you like hot weather. Out here in Seattle it is almost always cooler. Hardly ever actually "cold" though, in that I think Atlanta actually got more snow and I had my pipes freeze more there than I have out here.

Now, the winter is much darker. The shift in sunset and sunrise is much more pronounced. This is somewhat offset by how much bloody sun we get in the summer. Which is truly insane. Sun is up by 4:30 most mornings, and you can see outside till near 10 most evenings. (Sunset, I think, is well earlier than that, but our twilight is bright. I am likely mistaken on this understanding, though. Haven't taken a journal or kept records, etc.)

Re:Jeff Bezos' annual shareholders letter by enraged_camel on Wednesday April 18, 2018 @09:29PM (#16872676)
It is overcast 8-9 months of the year in Seattle.
Re:Jeff Bezos' annual shareholders letter by stale2002 on Wednesday April 18, 2018 @08:04PM (#16872341)
Yeah, exactly. Amazon pays less than Google and FB, but it is vastly more than your average SF startup, for example.