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Re:Russia Bans 1.8M Amazon and Google IPs in Attempt to Bloc... by ryanlol on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @06:36AM (#16857064)
Because the Russian government can read all non-E2EE conversations (so 99% of them) on Telegram and is hoping to drive adoption overseas with this PR stunt.

None of the other messengers you mentioned are designed to work like this (not 100% sure about Viber), the ability of operators to read most of the conversations on the platform is very much unique to Telegram.

It's really not a coincidence that the Russian government is choosing to ban the worst "encrypted messenger" on the market.

Re:Russia Bans 1.8M Amazon and Google IPs in Attempt to Bloc... by y_molodtsov on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @11:37AM (#16859306)
Do you have any proof?
Re:Russia Bans 1.8M Amazon and Google IPs in Attempt to Bloc... by ryanlol on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @12:23PM (#16859761)
What would you like me to prove?

That Telegram has handed their keys to the Russian government? Difficult, but unnecessary.

That Telegram was deliberately designed in a manner which enables its owners to easily hand over the keys to the government? Easy to prove, Signal and Whatsapp do not share the same surveillance features.

Re:Russia Bans 1.8M Amazon and Google IPs in Attempt to Bloc... by eitland on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @04:54PM (#16862231)
Since you seem to like WhatsApp:

Who pays for it now that it is free?

I for one refuse to think that Facebook bought it for a number of billion USD and keep operating and improving it for no good reason.

We also know, based on what they had to tell EU and based on their new EULA - that they tried to introduce by default - that they wanted to harvest metadata from it.

Attacking Telegram while simultaneously praising WhatsApp seems really strange to me.

As for Signal, that's another story. They have their own issues but I personally believe it is better than both Telegram and WhatsApp.

Re:Russia Bans 1.8M Amazon and Google IPs in Attempt to Bloc... by ryanlol on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @05:10PM (#16862356)
>Attacking Telegram while simultaneously praising WhatsApp seems really strange to me.

Look at them both from a purely technical perspective.

WhatsApp has made an effort to ensure that they're limited to only monetizing the metadata of the chats, Telegram by design does not share this limitation.

Even if you don't trust Whatsapp, you know that they'd have to push a backdoored app to everyone in order to intercept your chats. Telegram is backdoored by default.