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Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways by rayiner on Monday April 16, 2018 @03:45PM (#16852083)
Better idea: ditch subways and bring back elevated lines. Works just fine in Chicago.
Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways by pkamb on Monday April 16, 2018 @05:36PM (#16853023)
Monorail! Monorail! Monorail!
Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways by bdamm on Monday April 16, 2018 @08:12PM (#16854223)
Yeah! Specifically I'd like to see more Schwebebahn installations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuppertal_Suspension_Railway

Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways by szatkus on Monday April 16, 2018 @04:15PM (#16852299)
When I was in London many parts of the underground was elevated, so I guess it works for them as well.
Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways by tialaramex on Monday April 16, 2018 @06:49PM (#16853617)
As far as I can remember none of the London Underground is elevated.

Because London's transport is all integrated under control of the local government (an option which is prohibited in most UK cities to facilitate "competition" ie price-gouging by foreign owned corporations) you might not have realised that you weren't using the Underground but one of the other modes, almost all of which are covered by the same ticketing system (the "Dangleway" isn't and neither are the boats).

If you travelled on ordinary seeming trains above ground, those weren't the Underground but instead ordinary "heavy rail" trains on National Rail infrastructure within London. Many of those lines are indeed far above the ground in parts of central London, but those are just called viaducts and aren't usually considered an "elevated railway" per se.

If you travelled on small trains in East London that didn't have a driver (you can sit at the front like a roller coaster), that's the Docklands Light Railway, almost all of which is elevated, it was built towards the end of last century during regeneration of the "Docklands" area.

If the trains seemed to be sharing a road with cars at street level, in South London, that's the Tramlink.

If the trains were smaller and red, that's a bus.

Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways by msrpotus on Monday April 16, 2018 @07:27PM (#16853926)
There are parts of the Underground that are, in fact, above ground and elevated (especially farther out like Ealing and Stratford). Then there’s also the Overground, which I think counts as light rail, but is generally on ground level.
Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways by tialaramex on Monday April 16, 2018 @09:37PM (#16854687)
The Overground is just a (branded) part of the normal National Rail heavy rail network that serves London. Same track, same stations, same rolling stock, just operated by TFL (Transport for London) like the rest of London's public transport.
Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways by spiralx on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @12:25PM (#16859786)
TFL control two heavy rail networks - the Overground and TfL Rail - although the latter will become part of the Elizabeth Line when it opens.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TfL_Rail

Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways by leoedin on Monday April 16, 2018 @05:38PM (#16853037)
Pretty much all the elevated train lines in London were built a long time ago - often before any of the houses which surround them. I don't think any new elevated lines (with the exception of bridges and the occasional longer section to join existing elevated lines) have been built for decades, perhaps significantly more.
Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways by spiralx on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @12:22PM (#16859749)
You're probably thinking of the Dockland's Light Railway.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docklands_Light_Railway

It's not part of the Underground, but it's also managed by Transport for London as part of its integrated network of public transport.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_for_London

Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways by baud147258 on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @08:12AM (#16857562)
We have some parts of the subway in Paris which are elevated, but the street under the rail can't be used for trafic, it's usually parking space or empty. So now the city is building tram or bus lanes above ground.
Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways by ZenoArrow on Monday April 16, 2018 @05:43PM (#16853089)
There are elevated trains in the New York subway system as well. For example...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9-nA0DNvqg

Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways by ekianjo on Monday April 16, 2018 @06:18PM (#16853354)
This was featured in the Blues Brothers right?
Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways by hexane360 on Monday April 16, 2018 @10:04PM (#16854819)
Are you kidding?

The Blues Brothers was set and filmed in Chicago (although they did shoot a scene in Milwaukee). It showed the "L" rapid-transit system.

Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways by ZenoArrow on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @03:22AM (#16856235)
> "Are you kidding?"

I don't think that was necessary. Yes, The Blues Brothers was centred around Chicago, but it might have been a while since GP saw the film, so their memory may have been hazy.

Aside from that, The French Connection featured a famous car chase that included the elevated trains in New York City:

http://youtu.be/2TVyJ-51jzc

Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways by hexane360 on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @05:55PM (#16862665)
Yeah, that's fair. My surprise came because The Blues Brothers is, in my mind, the Chicago movie. It couldn't really be more Chicago if it tried.
Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways by s0rce on Monday April 16, 2018 @04:26PM (#16852406)
As long as they are quieter than the elevated BART lines.
Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways by nkrisc on Monday April 16, 2018 @04:31PM (#16852463)
They're only too loud if you're under them. Maybe if you live right next to it with a real old window facing it as well.
Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways by matthewn on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @01:22AM (#16855701)
I'd be interested to know where you find this to be true. I have noticed that BART trains through Rockridge don't make much noise. But the track noise is so bad through Fruitvale, you can hear the trains over a mile away.
Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways by nkrisc on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @03:00PM (#16861248)
Looks like it wasn't that clear, but I was referring the elevated lines in Chicago (El) not BART.
Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways by komali2 on Monday April 16, 2018 @09:19PM (#16854599)
I could hear the elevated Bart line at Daly City station two miles away in Colma, where all the graveyards are.