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Re:Mark Zuckerberg is either lying, incompetent,or an inept ... by Dowwie on Monday April 16, 2018 @08:55AM (#16848600)
There's a strong bias against Zuckerberg and Facebook around here so I expect that my comment will down-vote into negative territory, yet this won't stop me from expressing my opinion.

Mark has transcended from hacker-programmer to entrepreneur and ultimately CEO of one of the world's largest, most successful tech-media companies. He's done so before turning 40 years old. The world is watching him testify for days on end with the most highly elected lawyer-politicians who don't understand his business, technology, nor policies. He's responding to aggressive lines of questioning to the best of his ability, with integrity, and yet in a way to protect his best interests. That is no simple feat.

Mark is showing the world that he's earned his position and is a real leader. His actions while testifying are commendable.

Those who continue to grind their axes will be left with nothing but a worn handle soon while Facebook and its social media empire will continue on, but hopefully changed for the better for society.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg is either lying, incompetent,or an inept ... by dannyw on Monday April 16, 2018 @09:06AM (#16848655)
This is one way to put it, but another way would be clarifying that Facebook is a dark-pattern filled, dopamine-tuned, unethical, illegal, and sometimes wilfully criminal social network.

While this was back ages ago, Zuckerberg used failed logins from Facebook to hack into a reporter’s email. Yes, Facebook captured plaintext passwords of failed logins, and Zuckerberg personally used them to hack a reporter’s email account who was digging into FB.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/how-mark-zuckerberg-hacke...

The problem isn’t scaling pains as you try to wrap. The problem IS Facebook, and almost everything about it.

Examples: Pledge 99% (for-profit, tax structuring), Internet.org (locking in of Facebook; closed intranet as ‘internet’); anticompetitive actions against Snapchat through copying of stories; and the 999+ privacy scandals that have continuously plagued Facebook because it is the core business model.

For you to call Zuckerberg commendable, is almost an insult for every founder with a moral compass.

He is certainly competent, but “commendable” is the exact antonym of what I’d use to describe him.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg is either lying, incompetent,or an inept ... by Dowwie on Monday April 16, 2018 @09:24AM (#16848767)
Thanks for commenting. After reading your response, I added "his actions while testifying" to be more clear, although I was speaking to them in the rest of my piece.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg is either lying, incompetent,or an inept ... by dannyw on Monday April 16, 2018 @09:38AM (#16848869)
Ah, that is fair and I agree with you. His actions while testifying is what I'd call respectable, especially since the session is really just for show - partly for both sides.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg is either lying, incompetent,or an inept ... by aaroninsf on Monday April 16, 2018 @02:39PM (#16851568)
Agree 100%, which I would summarize as:

To answer the original question, he's lying.

Which is 100% consistent with the career path described in glowing terms. In today's web which is in SaaS social media at minimum, is in the business of surveillance. Lying about that is axiomatic.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg is either lying, incompetent,or an inept ... by nobleach on Monday April 16, 2018 @11:48AM (#16849790)
> ...with integrity

I can't really agree here. To believe that _you_ have the right to delete things, but the unwashed laity that use your network do not, represents a complete lack of integrity. Believing that _you_ should be allowed to own all the property around you, so that you can have a sense of privacy, and accept that your company wants to lobby for the use of private medical records to build better profiles on your users... that's disgusting.

But I agree that all of this outrage will amount to nothing. I deleted my account in early 2017, but I know my data still resides on their servers, and is used to some sort of advantage. It's easier to leave the mafia....

Re:Mark Zuckerberg is either lying, incompetent,or an inept ... by m-p-3 on Monday April 16, 2018 @10:10AM (#16849085)
> Mark has transcended from hacker-programmer to entrepreneur and ultimately CEO of one of the world's largest, most successful tech-media companies. He's done so before turning 40 years old.

Yet I still think the company evolved much faster than he did, and he's getting overwhelmed in a position he's no longer fit for.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg is either lying, incompetent,or an inept ... by peterashford on Monday April 16, 2018 @07:24PM (#16853900)
"earned his position"? No, he lucked out. He made a product to rate people on their looks. It caught on in unexpected ways that are all to do with technology and society combining in unexpected and unpredictable ways. This idea that everyone who succeeds does so entirely on their own merits is an especially north American delusion and is an obvious fallacy (it's an example of Survivor Bias)
Re:Mark Zuckerberg is either lying, incompetent,or an inept ... by staticautomatic on Monday April 16, 2018 @02:11PM (#16851304)
Integrity? Have you seen his notes?