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Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by isostatic on Friday April 13, 2018 @07:58AM (#16829109)
The bigger question is why are China advertising this

1) Was the man actually caught by someone acting undercover and they want to protect the agent's identity with plausable deniability

2) Does the system not actually work very well (say a 1 in 100k hit rate), but they want people to think that if they are wanted, they can't hide, so they'll either turn themselves in, or be less likely to do the (unspecified) crime in the first place

3) Is there pressure that this project is overrunning/overbudget and they need a PR win to keep those higher up in the government happy

Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by coldtea on Friday April 13, 2018 @08:28AM (#16829309)
Or, you know, 4) the project works very well, and they want to advertise it and instill some fear in people...
Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by fredley on Friday April 13, 2018 @08:41AM (#16829406)
And/or sell the system. Plenty of regimes out there that would love this capability.
Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by alex_duf on Friday April 13, 2018 @09:34AM (#16829795)
That would be my guess. It was probably expensive so they are looking to sell it.
Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by volgo on Friday April 13, 2018 @11:40AM (#16831028)
That would be admitting that Chinese technologies are gaining momentum. Not something you're suppose to say here on HN :)
Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by ktta on Friday April 13, 2018 @08:03AM (#16829142)
I think it is closer to your 3rd possibility.

There's also the possibility that they want to show (fake) the supposed power of this system even to their own citizens to elevate the apparent reach of the government.

Say what you want about rights, but Chinese government is ruthlessly efficient about what it wants done, and it rarely loses (except for the recent trade relations fiasco)

Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by coldtea on Friday April 13, 2018 @08:29AM (#16829312)
>except for the recent trade relations fiasco

Assuming it was a fiasco, which is not very clearly the case (if you speak about the tarrifs thing).

Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by jfoster on Friday April 13, 2018 @08:14AM (#16829221)
Why not advertise it? Possible reasons:

1. Maybe wanted criminals would change their appearance or hide their faces. Even that outcome might be a significant deterrent to committing crimes, going forward.

2. Public discontent about the system. This is unlikely to be much of a problem in China.

They have a lot more to gain (deterrence) than they do to lose.

Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by mtgx on Friday April 13, 2018 @08:16AM (#16829231)
I don't know if this is the main reason, but I read an article saying that Chinese companies were starting to export this tech to other countries. So that would be one way to "advertise" its effectiveness.

Also, the more China gets other countries to enable the same kind of censorship and surveillance it does, too, the more it won't stand-out as a sore thumb and the less it will be called out by "principled" leaders in the future.

Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by drpgq on Friday April 13, 2018 @08:31AM (#16829328)
I've worked in the industry for since 2003. Algorithm improvements in the past few years have been impressive. Plus if you set up a decent chokepoint at the ticket gate and get good images things are even easier for the algorithm.
Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by bsenftner on Friday April 13, 2018 @10:25AM (#16830269)
Are you at ISC West?
Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by tener on Friday April 13, 2018 @08:03AM (#16829144)
Maybe they just want to show off to discourage any trouble makers (including political ones)?
Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by dbkaplun on Friday April 13, 2018 @08:06AM (#16829155)
Perhaps China is advertising this to deter crime, as a potential criminal might worry about facial recognition before doing something illegal.
Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by randomsearch on Friday April 13, 2018 @08:25AM (#16829288)
"crime"
Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by coldtea on Friday April 13, 2018 @08:30AM (#16829321)
There does exist such thing as "crime", even in China (imagine that). It's not all angelic citizens and among them, some angelic dissidents.
Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by logfromblammo on Friday April 13, 2018 @09:46AM (#16829906)
The surveillance AI knows nothing of the difference between malum in se (crime!) and malum prohibitum ("crime"). The pamphleteer protesting local corruption and the strongarm robber are caught in the same trap.
Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by root_axis on Friday April 13, 2018 @10:24AM (#16830259)
> The surveillance AI knows nothing of the difference between malum in se (crime!) and malum prohibitum ("crime")

And for the humans in charge of the AI there is no such distinction so the AI is working as intended.

Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by Spooky23 on Friday April 13, 2018 @08:18AM (#16829248)
It’s a deterrent and a positive press hit.

State DMVs in the US get press hits all of the time when they upgrade facial recognition systems and catch people with multiple driver licenses.

Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by _pmf_ on Friday April 13, 2018 @08:16AM (#16829233)
> The bigger question is why are China advertising this

Striking fear into citizens; literally state terrorism.

Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by Clubber on Friday April 13, 2018 @09:22AM (#16829708)
Contrast with the US which keeps it's NSA spying and data collection private. Until it isn't.
Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by _pmf_ on Monday April 16, 2018 @09:28AM (#16848806)
> Contrast with the US which keeps it's NSA spying and data collection private. Until it isn't.

I think the USA is a bit behind China and the UK in applying surveillance technology to target individuals for petty things. Sure , it's technologically viable, but it seems there's no will yet to punish the evil jay walker with the full force of law.