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Re:Vancouver signs first agreement in Canada with Airbnb for... by stale2002 on Wednesday April 11, 2018 @09:30PM (#16817315)
The solution to housing being used as an investment is to build so much housing supply that this investment becomes worthless.

Why SHOULDN'T we just let the Chinese build a bunch of empty buildings? It's their money and if they want to waste it building us cheap housing on an investment that will eventually go bust, I say we let them.

The solution is scorched earth, "LOL, you thought your investment was going to go up, but instead we built such a ridiculous amount of housing that houses are now free for everyone".

Re:Vancouver signs first agreement in Canada with Airbnb for... by freshhawk on Thursday April 12, 2018 @03:11AM (#16818658)
Why not? Because we've seen places where that basic series of events took place.

That takes a long time to play out, and other factors come in to play during that time.

Re:Vancouver signs first agreement in Canada with Airbnb for... by mistermann on Thursday April 12, 2018 @08:34AM (#16820185)
Places where the building was via foreign investment, in cash, absorbing all risk?
Re:Vancouver signs first agreement in Canada with Airbnb for... by fatbird on Wednesday April 11, 2018 @10:21PM (#16817496)
Nihilism is never a solution.
Re:Vancouver signs first agreement in Canada with Airbnb for... by chii on Wednesday April 11, 2018 @10:54PM (#16817623)
That's not nihilism, but a correct free market response to over-investment in a particular asset type.

The fact that this didn't happen is due to regulation and other market distortions.

Re:Vancouver signs first agreement in Canada with Airbnb for... by andrewjl on Thursday April 12, 2018 @12:15AM (#16817934)
This is a reply to the sibling comment rather than the parent (which I largely agree with). Politically incorrect rhetoric aside, it's clear than Vancouver's housing shortage can be easily addressed by free market mechanics.

Increased supply, even if not available on the market means that the owner or occupant will not outbid a local on a different housing unit. Multiple additional housing units will over time enter the market and reduce competition and rent increases. A more friendly zoning situation will also spur developers to bring in more housing capacity. This will stabilize or reduce rents, as has been empirically demonstrated in the past year by Seattle.

Re:Vancouver signs first agreement in Canada with Airbnb for... by fatbird on Thursday April 12, 2018 @12:25AM (#16817974)
For the last 20 years Vancouver has had a building boom in which housing starts and completions have been at record highs. We're adding housing stock as fast as we can and faster than almost any municipality in North America. After 20 years, we're at record high prices, available rental properties are at record lows, and rents are at record highs. How is it that glutting supply has failed to drive prices down, correcting over-investment in our housing market?
Re:Vancouver signs first agreement in Canada with Airbnb for... by andrewjl on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @03:23PM (#16861474)
Faster than Seattle on a population-adjusted basis?
Re:Vancouver signs first agreement in Canada with Airbnb for... by fatbird on Thursday April 12, 2018 @12:05AM (#16817890)
I'm not sure why I should give the "correct free market response" any airtime at all, given that 1) it would appear to require making one of the top 5 Canadian cities into "scorched earth", meaning a wasteland of empty housing in order to drive out investment money so that... why? and 2) any one of a hundred or more demonstrable failures of free markets that have fueled the drive for regulation more than anything else over the same period.
Re:Vancouver signs first agreement in Canada with Airbnb for... by stale2002 on Thursday April 12, 2018 @06:42PM (#16825620)
Because having a bunch of free, empty apartments that investors paid for is wonderful! It means that they can be used and are available for all the productive things that building are, on the cheap.

If you could wave a magic wand and do the same thing for food and water wouldn't you do so?

Re:Vancouver signs first agreement in Canada with Airbnb for... by fatbird on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:13PM (#16825798)
If they fill up because they're cheap, that indicates market demand that will bring the investors back. You're not going to keep them out unless Vancouver becomes, in significant part, a ghost town.

Which has another cost: everyone here who owns their own property would see their most significant asset disappear as the value of their home plummeted along with all the investment properties.

If I could do the same for food, we'd soon live in a hellscape of rotten food.