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Re:Steve Wozniak on why he is leaving Facebook [video] by justadudeama on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @09:19AM (#16801107)
I realize this, but I still have a hard time not using Google services. I know they are analyzing my data for ads, but it in incredibly convenient for me to be on the exact same platform, from email with gmail and file storage with google drive and browser with chrome and android on my phone, they just seem to get me with one thing at a time in the name of standardization. What steps can be made to prevent this?
Re:Steve Wozniak on why he is leaving Facebook [video] by baldfat on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @09:52AM (#16801327)
I much prefer the ads that are personalized to me then the random ads I get on mass media.

One caveat! Can I please not be bombed by ads for days for items I purchased?!?!?! I bought a camera and I have seen the batteries and camera in my ads for almost a month now.

Re:Steve Wozniak on why he is leaving Facebook [video] by slazaro on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @10:44AM (#16801715)
The excuse for these kind of ads is that it's just machines making correlations, but I've always thought it's mostly easy to solve: they should only show you ads for things you bought when it's the kind of product that other people have bought more than one of. So, that would check out for things like consumables, but not for big appliances, for instance.

No need for manual checking of which products pass the test, it would still be automated.

Re:Steve Wozniak on why he is leaving Facebook [video] by gilbetron on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @10:05AM (#16801439)
I see you bought an oven, would you like to buy another oven?
Re:Steve Wozniak on why he is leaving Facebook [video] by jstanley on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @09:58AM (#16801379)
Replace gmail with an email server you control.

Replace file storage with a hard disk you control.

Replace chrome with chromium (or, better, firefox).

Replace android with an android fork that uses f-droid instead of the Play store.

And you're done, no more Google usage.

I currently use my Google account only for signing in to YouTube, so that it keeps track of my subscriptions and let me write comments. I use Firefox's "multi-account containers" so that only the "YouTube" container knows my Google account. Google Analytics for non-YouTube sites doesn't get to trivially associate me with my Google account, because I look at all other sites in different containers.

If someone created an alternative YouTube interface that allowed you to keep track of subscriptions without telling Google who you are, I'd probably use that rather than logging in to YouTube. Bonus points if it also gives you a disposable Google account with which to write comments.

Re:Steve Wozniak on why he is leaving Facebook [video] by lauritzsh on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @10:28AM (#16801610)
Each YouTube channel also has an RSS feed you can subscribe to. That way you don't tell Google who you are.

  1. Go to any YouTube channel you wish to subscribe to (such as youtube.com/user/YouTube).
  2. View source.
  3. Search for rssUrl or channel_id.
There should be a link to an ordinary RSS feed you can use with any reader. Hope this is useful for you.
Re:Steve Wozniak on why he is leaving Facebook [video] by slouch on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @11:28AM (#16802057)
Thanks for this! I am pretty fed up with the subscriptions dashboard in YouTube since they introduced posts.
Re:Steve Wozniak on why he is leaving Facebook [video] by jstanley on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @03:04PM (#16804126)
Brilliant! Thank you.
Re:Steve Wozniak on why he is leaving Facebook [video] by coughlanio on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @10:13AM (#16801506)
Why not use YouTube's RSS feeds and use any bog standard reader?

https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=UC3x6qC4...

As for the comments that's likely a bigger issue to tackle, especially with how liberal Google is with captchas these days.

Re:Steve Wozniak on why he is leaving Facebook [video] by dwighttk on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @11:03AM (#16801857)
Nice... I just plugged the channel page into feedly and they got me the feed... I had never thought of doing that. Since I really don't care about commenting on YouTube, I'm now "free" of the bonds of logging in to view youtube.
Re:Steve Wozniak on why he is leaving Facebook [video] by justadudeama on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @07:53PM (#16806820)
Just curious, what reader do you use?
Re:Steve Wozniak on why he is leaving Facebook [video] by woodrowbarlow on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @11:59AM (#16802340)
> Replace gmail with an email server you control.

do you do this personally? i've tried and found the barrier for entry is through the roof. if you don't configure everything just right you end up on gmail's spam blacklists and nobody gets your emails. and good luck getting off the blacklist once you're there.

i would love advice from anybody for self-hosting a reliable email server that the major carriers won't treat as a second-class citizen.

Re:Steve Wozniak on why he is leaving Facebook [video] by jstanley on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @03:06PM (#16804157)
Yes, I do this personally.

The barrier to entry is certainly higher than setting up a web server, but it's not too hard.

Advice for improving deliverability would be to add SPF and DMARC records for your domain (don't worry about DKIM).

Other than that, if I end up in someone's spam filter, I tell them to fix their spam filter. If your spam filter is classifying legitimate emails as spam, it's a bad spam filter. Doesn't happen often though.

Re:Steve Wozniak on why he is leaving Facebook [video] by justadudeama on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @07:51PM (#16806804)
See I would do this but I don't personally trust myself this much. Do you have the server on AWS or another cloud hosting website?
Re:Steve Wozniak on why he is leaving Facebook [video] by makewavesnotwar on Wednesday April 11, 2018 @12:33AM (#16808057)
Have you tried Zoho mail? It's not the same as rolling your own, but it's decentralized from Google's servers. Not just that but you can register domain specific addresses (like Google Apps) for free. It's my standard for new domains.

They can still collect all the info you provide them directly, but it's a bit different than cross-referencing your gmail account with your phone's location history and your google search history, paired with your Google calendar travel plans and emails about shopping list updates for your Amazon account.

Re:Steve Wozniak on why he is leaving Facebook [video] by ex3ndr on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @11:12AM (#16801920)
Most of your contacts are using gmail as well. So your emails are eventually landed on gmail servers.
Re:Steve Wozniak on why he is leaving Facebook [video] by BubuIIC on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @05:31PM (#16805653)
I just needed to test if I can send emails to gmail accounts form my selfhosted mailserver without them getting put into the spam folder.

I'm using that email for ~6 months now, I haven't yet send an email to gmail... I checked. And I use email quite a lot actually.

Re:Steve Wozniak on why he is leaving Facebook [video] by manjushri on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @11:57AM (#16802319)
That's a good point but at least Google won't be able to disable your gmail account and lock you out of all the accounts and media you had tied to it.
Re:Steve Wozniak on why he is leaving Facebook [video] by forapurpose on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @03:06PM (#16804153)
> Replace android with an android fork that uses f-droid instead of the Play store.

The store itself isn't the only functionality; many apps rely on many services provided by Google's proprietary Google Apps (Gapps) and most users will need to work around that too; there are FOSS replacements such as the microG project (I don't know its current state).

Re:Steve Wozniak on why he is leaving Facebook [video] by BubuIIC on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @11:31AM (#16802081)
For android there is NewPipe: https://newpipe.schabi.org

Completely free, uses none of the google internal APIs and manages your subscriptions, watch and search history locally.

Re:Steve Wozniak on why he is leaving Facebook [video] by jpalomaki on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @11:39AM (#16802155)
I would also add security as one benefit. Not sure how others feel, but I think Gmail is one of the most secure ways for me to handle my email (US government agencies are not on my threat list).

I think Google takes security very seriously and their scale allows them to do and know things smaller vendors would not know.

While rolling your own email server is fairly easy thing to do, you can easily open attack vectors you don't think about. Like social engineering attacks against your hosting or DNS provider which would allow attacker to get control of your server or traffic. These kind of tricks can be pulled of by people who just get annoyed on you on Internet or who want to take your nice Twitter handle.

Re:Steve Wozniak on why he is leaving Facebook [video] by icebraining on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @09:28AM (#16801160)
Prevent what? Making convenient things?
Re:Steve Wozniak on why he is leaving Facebook [video] by justadudeama on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @09:42AM (#16801246)
Having all of my data in Google Servers.
Re:Steve Wozniak on why he is leaving Facebook [video] by nicky0 on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @09:57AM (#16801370)
Step one: Put it somewhere else.