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Re:YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Po... by Grue3 on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @07:15AM (#16800484)
YT wasn't very sad about stolen content when they were starting up...
Re:YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Po... by kitotik on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @09:11AM (#16801056)
They still are anything but sad about it. The amount of pirated music on their platform is mind boggling.
Re:YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Po... by strictnein on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @09:41AM (#16801238)
A lot of that is fully monetized by the copyright owners.
Re:YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Po... by em3rgent0rdr on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @12:18PM (#16802509)
Now maybe, but not when starting up.
Re:YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Po... by LordHeini on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @09:59AM (#16801384)
Or the random person who uploaded it.
Re:YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Po... by strictnein on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @10:17AM (#16801531)
Youtube automatically identifies almost all copyrighted music when videos are uploaded and copyright owners can decide who will be the one to monetize it. Almost all of the major players have the monetization assigned to themselves.
Re:YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Po... by kitotik on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @12:22PM (#16802544)
Do you have any data on that? In practice I’ve only seen this for semi-recent top40 major label releases.

I’m referring more to the sheer volume of back catalog older/indie music that users have digitized from vinyl. I’ve talked to several indie label managers who gave up years ago trying to monetize/fight youtube with c&d letters.

Re:YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Po... by fapjacks on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @12:18PM (#16802502)
This system actually is renowned for false positives and generally poor classification with no recourse for fixing its mistakes. A funny and telling related story: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42580523
Re:YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Po... by LordHeini on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @12:04PM (#16802383)
How do you know that?

There are tons of whole albums which are definitively not "monetized" by their makers.

E.g. old stuff where the band does not exists anymore or all the low selling genres where nobody cares. It is not a bad thing since i discovered a lot of cool stuff like that.

Re:YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Po... by strictnein on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @12:13PM (#16802448)
There's some long tail stuff that isn't, but the large majority is.

A breakdown of how the system works (they're trying to sell music for you to use, but it's still a good writeup):

https://www.safemusiclist.com/can-use-copyrighted-music-yout...

Re:YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Po... by simias on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @11:06AM (#16801872)
I wouldn't say that they're "sad" about it but they clearly seem to put the effort to remove it, it's possible to find some pirated content (movies, music, TV footage etc...) but it's definitely a lot more difficult than any other streaming site I'm aware of. Go to a website like dailymotion if you want to see a "mind boggling" amount of pirated content (and even then, it's relatively tame compared to even smaller streaming sites).

It's a clearly a consequence of Youtube being owned by a tech giant and having such a high profile, all the right holders are willing to tell their lawyers to pull the trigger if they find their content hosted illegally on Youtube. It's probably easier and cheaper for Google to be proactive about it than dealing with the probably tremendous amount of complaints that would be generated if they waited for right holders to make a move.

Re:YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Po... by ghostbrainalpha on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @10:45AM (#16801730)
Look up Mickey Mouse Clubhouse on Youtube.

If you can steal from Disney, Youtube doesn't care. And no these videos are not being monetized by the creator.

Re:YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Po... by EpicEng on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @10:50AM (#16801766)
> And no these videos are not being monetized by the creator.

How do you know that?

Re:YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Po... by maksimum on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @11:08AM (#16801881)
You could upload one yourself and you would get a notice if it gets monetized by the creator.
Re:YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Po... by EpicEng on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @11:44AM (#16802215)
>You could upload one yourself and you would get a notice if it gets monetized by the creator

It may or it may not; I fail to see how that test would lead you to a conclusion here. You're making an assertion and really you have no idea.

Re:YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Po... by ghostbrainalpha on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @12:10PM (#16802424)
We know because when Disney finds their content on Youtube they have it removed, they don't compromise their premium channels for the pittance in ad revenue they would get from pirate garbage.

The uploaders get through the filters with really strange editing tricks, cropping the screen and editing random bits together. It's not a level of quality that Disney would like to have associated with their brand in even the most unofficial way.

Re:YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Po... by EpicEng on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @12:17PM (#16802488)
> The uploaders get through the filters with really strange editing tricks, cropping the screen and editing random bits together.

That they do, not wrong there.

Re:YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Po... by ahtu123 on Wednesday April 11, 2018 @07:32PM (#16816770)
I remember I started using Youtube originally because they had pretty much every season of every TV show uploaded there.