Re:Home Values Are Rising by $800 a Day in San Jose
by Reedx on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @12:36AM
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Yep.
VC -> Startup -> Employee -> Landlord.
Everyone blames tech workers, but they're not the ones raising the prices. Most of their money disappears into rent.
Re:Home Values Are Rising by $800 a Day in San Jose
by sokoloff on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @08:01AM
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If they’re the ones demanding housing at a rate that outstrips the supply, then they are the ones causing prices to rise: they’re just not the ones editing the listings.
Re:Home Values Are Rising by $800 a Day in San Jose
by jostmey on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @09:53AM
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The demand for housing is not the problem. It's the supply that is the problem. The supply is being kept artificially low
Re:Home Values Are Rising by $800 a Day in San Jose
by charlesdm on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @10:42AM
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Because if you're a landlord with significant property holdings, what would you do? You'd lobby the government not to increase supply, of course.
Re:Home Values Are Rising by $800 a Day in San Jose
by ynniv on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @10:50AM
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No, you would build more if you could.
Re:Home Values Are Rising by $800 a Day in San Jose
by oxymoran on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @11:39AM
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Landlords do not build they own. Contractors and developers build. If you could own one building and charge $2500 or own 5 building and charge $600 each, what would you choose? You would make $500 more owning more buildings, but you would also have more overhead and work managing them all.
Re:Home Values Are Rising by $800 a Day in San Jose
by ynniv on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @01:06PM
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Is this a trick question? I would build another one AND charge $600 each. Developers build for clients with money, like landlords.
Re:Home Values Are Rising by $800 a Day in San Jose
by hn0 on Wednesday April 11, 2018 @08:35AM
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The dominant factor driving house prices is mortgage credit inflation, not supply and demand, both the hypothesis and the data for this are very strong.
See for instance: https://seekingalpha.com/amp/article/4161999-mother-deflatio...
Re:Home Values Are Rising by $800 a Day in San Jose
by jandrese on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @11:43AM
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Why not both? This is classic Supply and Demand curves.
Re:Home Values Are Rising by $800 a Day in San Jose
by Bartweiss on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @12:15PM
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Sure, but in normal markets both supply and demand shift to reach equilibrium. In urban housing markets, increasingly supply is approximately illegal, so what would be manageable demand for any other resource drives runaway price growth like we see here.
The argument for not blaming high-salary tech workers is that when they demand anything other than housing (nootropics or standing desks or whatever other stereotype we might choose), prices don't react anywhere near as strongly.
Re:Home Values Are Rising by $800 a Day in San Jose
by jandrese on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @12:21PM
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Increasing supply shouldn't be that hard. High rise apartment buildings can house thousands of people using a small amount of real-estate. Opposition to them is mostly political. They do make it more difficult to design your city services, but that's not an insurmountable problem either.
The Bay area should look a lot more like Manhattan, not that Manhattan is the gold standard in affordable housing...
Re:Home Values Are Rising by $800 a Day in San Jose
by oculusthrift on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @02:17AM
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startups also pay insane rent for their offices
Re:Home Values Are Rising by $800 a Day in San Jose
by kazinator on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @02:21AM
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Not their fault; other than in a high rent area, where can you find people who blow most of their dough on rent? Those are the smart ones!
Re:Home Values Are Rising by $800 a Day in San Jose
by counterpoint1 on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @10:59AM
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Landlord -> Property taxes -> Government benefits receivers, service providers and employees
The real beneficiaries are the people who gain from the increased tax revenue.
Re:Home Values Are Rising by $800 a Day in San Jose
by talmand on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @11:45AM
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What happens when the source of the tax revenue decides they had enough and leave?
Re:Home Values Are Rising by $800 a Day in San Jose
by jandrese on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @11:36AM
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I thought Prop 13 prevented taxes from rising with property value?
Re:Home Values Are Rising by $800 a Day in San Jose
by lbotos on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @01:07AM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. I wonder what the venn diagram of VCs and Landlords look like. If I was a VC, you better believe I'd have some money in real estate too.
https://www.sfgate.com/expensive-san-francisco/article/peter...