Re:‘Big Brother’ in India Requires Fingerprint Scans for Foo...
by zo1 on Saturday April 07, 2018 @03:59PM
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So then why don't they go and apply to be documented? I'm sure their foreign birth certificate is enough to prove their existence. Oh, that's right, it's illegal and would get declined. Hence the correct term: "illegal immigrants". The topic is complicated and touchy enough without it being muddled with incorrect terminology.
Re:‘Big Brother’ in India Requires Fingerprint Scans for Foo...
by shripadk on Saturday April 07, 2018 @04:35PM
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Exactly the reason why India wants documentation via Aadhaar. We have millions of undocumented/illegal immigrants too. From neighbouring Bangladesh (nothing against Bangladeshi's... always welcome through the legal route). They have been enjoying the benefits accorded to them from Indian taxpayer money. Why should Indian exchequer pay for welfare of these illegal immigrants? Before Aadhaar, it was really easy to forge a Voter ID card and start receiving benefits that were due to the poor and needy Indian citizens. You can't forge fingerprints.
Re:‘Big Brother’ in India Requires Fingerprint Scans for Foo...
by captn3m0 on Saturday April 07, 2018 @05:45PM
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this makes me cringe because Aadhaar does not certify citizenship. Someone who crosses over the border today into India can get a aadhaar without any documents by:
1. using the introducer system (The enrollment center operator would gladly do this for you)
2. signing a checkbox that says they've lived in India for 180 days.
Re:‘Big Brother’ in India Requires Fingerprint Scans for Foo...
by shripadk on Saturday April 07, 2018 @06:37PM
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You can do anything illegally but you also have to be ready for the consequences. Obtaining a PAN using forged documents has just a 10000 rupee penalty but obtaining Aadhaar card illegally will put you in prison for 3 years. Those who are obtaining Aadhaar illegally are setting themselves up for even greater trouble as their biometrics is forever stored with the GoI. Illegal immigrants will have to think twice before going down that route as once discovered will completely block their ability to legally enter India ever again (apart from a lengthy jail term and subsequent deportation).
1. http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/illegal-bangla...
2. http://www.tribuneindia.com/mobi/news/jammu-kashmir/communit...
3. https://m.indiatimes.com/news/india/here-is-why-you-should-n...
Re:‘Big Brother’ in India Requires Fingerprint Scans for Foo...
by rohit2412 on Saturday April 07, 2018 @04:55PM
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I didn't want to fall into this debate, hence used the politically correct term.
My point being, the other guy is arguing that USA doesn't require identity documents, which is laughable. You need SSN just to earn money in USA.
Re:‘Big Brother’ in India Requires Fingerprint Scans for Foo...
by zo1 on Sunday April 08, 2018 @08:19AM
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Sorry - I didn't mean to single out your specific usage of the term. Just a bit of a touchy topic as well because I find such language-manipulation that appears trivial on the surface to be a tool used to control discussion. And as a legal migrant, I find the right to be in a host country a privilege; one that should be earned rather than demanded.
Tell that to the undocumented immigrants. You forget that you have a birth certificate to prove you are a citizen.