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Re:iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy by andromeduck on Friday April 06, 2018 @05:23PM (#16777579)
It's good in theory but in practice you'd need to spend a lot of time and money doing deep audits yourself, both hardware and software. That just really isn't a worthwhile investment for the vast, vast, majority of people.

At the end of the day it all still boils down to trust based on reputation, incentives and oversight. Openness is important but no panacea.

Re:iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy by nixpulvis on Friday April 06, 2018 @05:30PM (#16777626)
Well at least the surface area of the audit is a LOT smaller than on macOS, Windows, etc.
Re:iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy by andromeduck on Friday April 06, 2018 @05:57PM (#16777823)
I really doubt that's the case if you use more than a few small apps which is the case for the vast majority of users.
Re:iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy by nixpulvis on Friday April 06, 2018 @06:02PM (#16777858)
Must I link a running process list of my Linux laptop vs my macOS laptop?
Re:iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy by mmphosis on Friday April 06, 2018 @08:25PM (#16778667)

  ps aux | wc
Linux:

  177
Mac OS X:

  44
macOS?
Re:iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy by davewritescode on Friday April 06, 2018 @06:30PM (#16778064)
How do you know the process list is accurate for certain?

The point is, there’s potentially back doors in everything, including the C compiler that built your Linux kernel.

Re:iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy by nixpulvis on Friday April 06, 2018 @06:48PM (#16778160)
We've all read reflections on trusting trust... still my point stands, it's hard to argue that Linux is not lighter than the mainstream OSes.
Re:iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy by userbinator on Friday April 06, 2018 @08:20PM (#16778649)
Something like a default Ubuntu install (which might be somewhat "mainstream") actually has a surprising amount of stuff running in the background. Of course it's all open-source or otherwise completely documented, so it's still easier to figure out what's what than with Windows or macOS.
Re:iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy by andromeduck on Friday April 06, 2018 @08:40PM (#16778735)
It can be lighter but what does that mean in practical terms if the cost of maintenance is monumental? I think with even just the barest bones practical computer with wifi + with email + browser + compiler and their dependencies is well beyond the scope of what one person is able to audit. You'd need a team of at least 20-30 individuals before that starts making sense.
Re:iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy by michaelmrose on Friday April 06, 2018 @09:06PM (#16778838)
If only it was possible for massive armies of people to inspect source code for possible defects or backdoors?

Further what if it happened we were unsatisfied with this we could all collectively hire more people to audit the software stacks we rely on in order of priority instead of expecting each person to hire dozens to vet the software they are presently running.

Further if only even if we can't ever arrive at 100% surety we can get closer and closer to satisfaction.

Re:iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy by andromeduck on Saturday April 07, 2018 @02:51AM (#16779702)
> If only it was possible for massive armies of people to inspect source code for possible defects or backdoors?

You mean like what Google, Apple, Microsoft, etc. already do?

Re:iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy by michaelmrose on Friday April 06, 2018 @09:03PM (#16778827)
Its silly to advice against reasonable actions like switching to an OS that respects your privacy based on unreasonable standards that aren't met presently anyway.

Don't bother leaving that disease ridden hag covered in boils you can't possibly invest the resources to sequence the full genome of this clean looking young lady over here it all comes down to trust amirite.