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Re:Google seeks to limit ‘right to be forgotten’ by claiming... by joe_the_user on Friday April 06, 2018 @03:08PM (#16776387)
The post above shows a complete misunderstanding of the issue. "Right to be forgotten" laws apply as much to other sources of information as they do to Google. The discussion has become a bad version of "telephone", people responding to quotes in the parent rather than knowing anything about the issue in question.

The question of whether one uses Google or other sources is irrelevant here. Sure, journalists could go to find public records and not be able to be published because of the law (because their article wouldn't be listed etc).

Re:Google seeks to limit ‘right to be forgotten’ by claiming... by joshuamorton on Friday April 06, 2018 @05:23PM (#16777581)
No they don't. They explicitly don't apply to journalism. That's the entire point of this. Right to be forgotten laws don't allow you to censor the intercept (a publication), but do allow you to force aggregators to remove the publication.

That's why people try to get things delisted from Google, because they can't get the original publisher to remove them.

Re:Google seeks to limit ‘right to be forgotten’ by claiming... by joe_the_user on Friday April 06, 2018 @06:49PM (#16778169)
Note: I should add "effectively apply" to my above post. If journalist articles can't be found on aggregators, they being effectively censored even if they are allowed to be published.

That's the entire point of this. Right to be forgotten laws don't allow you to censor the intercept (a publication), but do allow you to force aggregators to remove the publication.

If you can prevent a journalists' article from ever being found, you have effectively censored it. Especially, this would impact a journal outside the "top 100" - Someone could conceivably search the 50 or 100 top publications but after that you need an aggregator. So essentially this would censor journalism.

And to my original point, it's not just about Google in particular since the alternative to Google is pretty much some other aggregator.

Re:Google seeks to limit ‘right to be forgotten’ by claiming... by joshuamorton on Friday April 06, 2018 @07:00PM (#16778227)
>If you can prevent a journalists' article from ever being found, you have effectively censored it.

Oh this I 100% agree with. Information isn't information if it can't be found. (And noting that I'm employed by Google) I don't at all find the argument that "we can't prevent you from publishing something, but we can prevent it from being accessed" not compelling. Does it apply to newspaper anthologies or hard copy aggregation?

Re:Google seeks to limit ‘right to be forgotten’ by claiming... by philippejara on Friday April 06, 2018 @05:45PM (#16777744)
This is effectively giving the government power to decide what is legal speech and what isn't, no thanks. And yes I know defamation laws already do give them this power kindam but I still find them disgusting.