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Re:Comcast, AT&T and Verizon pose a greater surveillance ris... by jacquesm on Friday April 06, 2018 @02:07PM (#16775686)
> For the vast majority of customers, Comcast, AT&T, and Verizon know what sites you visit

They know which IP addresses you connect to. Many of those host large numbers of websites.

> what types of data you pass to them

What do you mean with 'what types of data'? They can't access the headers of encrypted traffic.

> every single DNS lookup you make

Yes, that's true. And you can cache those locally.

> etc. Sorry, but this is FAR more intrusive than Facebook, which you CLAIM has lots of data on you even if you don't use their service.

Shadow profiles are a thing.

> It's harder to avoid Google than it is to avoid Facebook, but again, it's doable.

It's just about impossible. Every other email you send ends up in a gmail inbox. So even if you don't use their services at all your data still ends up with them. Even if you don't have a smartphone enough people around you will have them that your social graph will end up with Google anyway. And so on.

Re:Comcast, AT&T and Verizon pose a greater surveillance ris... by hsivonen on Friday April 06, 2018 @04:47PM (#16777262)
> They know which IP addresses you connect to. Many of those host large numbers of websites.

And SNI reveals which one of the Web sites you are accessing.