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Re:Google Workers Urge C.E.O. To Pull Out of Pentagon A.I. P... by chrischen on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @02:09PM (#16757342)
It could be argued that the 2nd amendment was put in place to ensure a means of the citizenry to overthrow the government (as an absolute check on an unjust government). Unfortunately it's now just a vestige of an older time and the 2nd amendment only serves to protect the rights of gun hobbyists.

The guns that a person are allowed to bear are nowhere near sufficient to take on the US military, and the modern arms such as encryption and freedom from surveillance are not even guaranteed by the 2nd amendment.

Re:Google Workers Urge C.E.O. To Pull Out of Pentagon A.I. P... by wang_li on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @05:07PM (#16759094)
>The guns that a person are allowed to bear are nowhere near sufficient to take on the US military,

You're getting into spherical cow[1] territory if you think the US citizenry couldn't defeat the US military.

The US military will not be fighting the US citizenry in a hypothetical clean room, it'll be fighting in America. Who are you going to bomb, who are you going to strafe, when your opposition can quietly fade into the populace that provides your material?

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_cow

Re:Google Workers Urge C.E.O. To Pull Out of Pentagon A.I. P... by reitanqild on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @02:47PM (#16757688)
> The guns that a person are allowed to bear are nowhere near sufficient to take on the US military,

I'm tired of reminding HNers about Aghanistan.

Re:Google Workers Urge C.E.O. To Pull Out of Pentagon A.I. P... by laurencerowe on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @03:29PM (#16758081)
IEDs were far more of a problem in Afghanistan than small arms.
Re:Google Workers Urge C.E.O. To Pull Out of Pentagon A.I. P... by reitanqild on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @03:43PM (#16758256)
Yep. And who do you think have the easier time getting ingredients for an IED, the person with a gun or the person without a gun?

Who has the better chance at ambushing and getting away with the enemys weapons: the one with the gun or the one without a gun?

Re:Google Workers Urge C.E.O. To Pull Out of Pentagon A.I. P... by chrischen on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @04:58PM (#16759000)
You can do a lot of damage with IEDs, but you can’t overthrow the government with IEDs.

Look at Turkey. The primary tool was encrypted communications and information dissemination. That’s modern power that citizens should have. Right now power comes from information and the preservation of speech and private communications, not a few handguns and rifles (or IEDs).

When the 2nd amendment was written a gun was relatively way more powerful than it is in today’s world. If you had a group of men with guns you were basically on par with the government military.

Re:Google Workers Urge C.E.O. To Pull Out of Pentagon A.I. P... by reitanqild on Thursday April 05, 2018 @12:15AM (#16761717)
IMO Turkey has mostly failed now.

However, I'm not saying I'd want them a civil war, just that it failed despite doing everything "right" it seems.

Re:Google Workers Urge C.E.O. To Pull Out of Pentagon A.I. P... by quickthrower2 on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @03:58PM (#16758420)
That's an away match.
Re:Google Workers Urge C.E.O. To Pull Out of Pentagon A.I. P... by gfo on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @03:24PM (#16758030)
Can you elaborate?
Re:Google Workers Urge C.E.O. To Pull Out of Pentagon A.I. P... by alistairSH on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @03:31PM (#16758105)
I believe he's referring to the Taliban's ability to hold off two modern armies (USSR in the 80s, USA in the 00s) with a much more basic arsenal than either super-power brought to bear.
Re:Google Workers Urge C.E.O. To Pull Out of Pentagon A.I. P... by briandear on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @05:15PM (#16759179)
380 million Americans, 2 million members of the military.

Unless the US were to nuke itself, given the geography, a motivated citizenry could easily take on the US military. Not a scenario I want to imagine, but the US military has troubles in Afghanistan and Iraq — imagine that kind of conflict in the US. Just look at rebels in Syria to see this on a smaller scale.