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Re:Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B by bogomipz on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @09:11PM (#16751002)
>" In 20 years, the Beatles and ac/dc will be less relevant and easier to live without."

If you made that statement I'm guessing that you don't realize that the Beatles have been relevant for 50 plus years now and AC/DC for 40 plus years.

They are so enduring because they are classics. It's amusing that you believe that when yet another generation discovers these artists they are somehow going to become less relevant.

Both of those artists that you used in your example were long time hold outs to allowing their music to be streamed. And it was huge news for Spotify when they were added to their catalog.

It's worth mentioned that Beatles tracks were streamed 50 million times in the first 48 hours that they were available for streaming.[1]

[1] https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/12/beatles-songs...

Re:Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B by verelo on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @09:23AM (#16754411)
I’m not totally stupid (just a little...), of course they have been relevant for a long time, but i think their ability to be a differentiator in what people choose to pay for exponentially deminishes as time passes. They will matter to some for sure, but i doubt it’ll be enough to really make or break the offering. Also, maybe in 20 years they’ll manage to license the content?
Re:Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B by orbitur on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @09:15PM (#16751032)
They have been relevant, yes, but that doesn't mean their primary audience isn't aging. If you truly believe the Beatles and AC/DC are gaining more followers than they are losing, you are woefully out of touch.

Spotify was excited to get them because it means older people might join. A larger audience, that's it.

Re:Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B by bogomipz on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @09:28PM (#16751099)
You are flat out wrong.

65% of those 50 million streams in the first 48 hours were by people under the age of 34. See:

https://www.thewrap.com/beatles-songs-stream-50-million-time...

So yeah, catalog is king.

Re:Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B by jsjohnst on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @09:47PM (#16751189)
And you don’t think those folks weren’t streaming because they were heavily pushed towards it? First 48hrs is completely irrelevant, I want to see sustained numbers. I’m not saying the later numbers don’t show them leading still, I’m just saying your choice of facts doesn’t support the argument you are making.
Re:Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B by bogomipz on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @10:03PM (#16751268)
>"And you don’t think those folks weren’t streaming because they were heavily pushed towards it?"

It's very bizarre that you don't understand the magnitude of the The Beatles. They are not something that requires a push.

So here's some number regarding the first 3 months of their catalog being available on Spotify:

"24 Million Hours Of Beatles Music Has Been Played In Their First 100 Days On Spotify

The company revealed today that in just over three months, people around the world have played 2,793 years worth of Beatles tunes.

Yes, that’s right — years. When that figure is broken down, it can be better understood as about one million days, or over 24 million hours. Considering that the average Beatles song is less than five minutes long, those 24 million hours multiply into several hundred million plays."

In fact, a conservative estimate of total Beatles plays on Spotify is still over a quarter of a billion. [1]

[1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2016/04/08/in-thei...

Re:Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B by dingaling on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @08:39AM (#16754120)
> It's very bizarre that you don't understand the magnitude of the The Beatles

I don't find it bizarre at all.

They are basically unplayed on UK broadcast radio nowadays and indeed for the past 30 years. I don't know if that is due to restrictive licensing or just lack of interest.

I am mid-40s and have never knowingly listened to an entire Beatles song. I've just asked my wife and she has never owned one of their CDs.

I don't know if they're even on YouTube. Edit: yes, their most popular song has 123 million views versus 3.2 billion for Gangnam Style.

My only peers who seem interested in the group and seek-out their music are musicians themselves.

Re:Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B by jsjohnst on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @11:41PM (#16751706)
Your original point was that millennials and younger love the Beatles on Spotify. How does this new reply show that?

I’m not sure why I’m bothering because you continue to miss the point and instead use multiple logical falicies to try to belabor your point. I get it, you have an obsession with this and you want to convince the world you’re right, doesn’t make it so.

I’m happy to be proven wrong as I have no skin in the game, but so far, you’ve not done so.

Re:Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B by dang on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @01:02AM (#16752092)
Please don't stoop to personal attack regardless of how wrong or annoying another comment may be.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B by bogomipz on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @11:57PM (#16751764)
>"Your original point was that millennials and younger love the Beatles on Spotify"

No my original point was the value of back catalog.

While its unfortunate that you aren't able to follow the conversation, it's even more unfortunate that you insist on making comments when you have nothing of value to add.

Re:Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B by dang on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @01:04AM (#16752110)
Would you please do a better job of respecting the civility rule here? You've broken it frequently. That's a problem.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B by bogomipz on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @09:22AM (#16754400)
I will yes and I realize I should have just have flagged the OPs comment rather than respond at all. Cheers.
Re:Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B by jsjohnst on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @12:10AM (#16751822)
Again with the ad hominem. I tried to have an intellectual debate, but alas, have a good day and best of luck!