Re:Google maps shows location of San Bruno shooting
by xienze on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @06:54PM
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Source please. I’m almost certain that includes suicides.
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Re:Google maps shows location of San Bruno shooting
by zachwood on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @07:10PM
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Why wouldn't it?
Re:Google maps shows location of San Bruno shooting
by xienze on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @08:00PM
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Because including suicides paints a misleading picture. When you say “gun deaths” with no qualifiers people think murders involving a gun.
Re:Google maps shows location of San Bruno shooting
by mercer on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @03:52AM
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I disagree. One of the main arguments against the proliferation of guns is that they're too powerful to have, barring a good reason.
Accidental death (a child getting a hold of one, for example) and suicide are often brought forward as examples of this, alongside murder in a 'heat of the moment' situations.
In fact, I've rarely heard 'predetermined' murder as the primary argument in discussions I've had on the matter (at least over here in Europe). Mostly because murderers who intend to do so with guns will not be deterred by guns being illegal, so it's relatively weak argument.
Re:Google maps shows location of San Bruno shooting
by DanBC on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @08:07PM
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Why is it misleading? It's mostly impulsive acts of violence. Most, but not all, of it is against the self.
The key method of reducing violence to other people and reducing death by suicide is to reduce access to means.
Reducing access to guns would help both problems.