A radical proposal to keep your personal data safe

Re:A radical proposal to keep your personal data safe by DataWorker on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @10:22AM (#16744847)

Obviously this proposal will be rejected because both companies and governments are addicted to the power to control and manipulate that data gives them. We need a strong leader who will go against the grain of these massive entrenched interests and be willing to stand up to the media onslaught such a stance will bring. The mainstream media will attack anyone who threatens their advertising based business model. When will there ever be a leader that doesn’t bend to the will of the media and deep state surveillance machine.

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Re:A radical proposal to keep your personal data safe by jonathanstrange on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @10:37AM (#16745005)

1. We don't need a strong leader. Fascism and authoritarianism have zero interest in the privacy of citizens. Never had, never will.

2. Power corrupts, so the overall answer is: never.

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Re:A radical proposal to keep your personal data safe by confounded on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @01:03PM (#16746726)

Leadership != fascism.

Change from below requires organization and coordination, and those things require leadership.

Were MLK or Ghandi fascist, because they were effective leaders?

Frankly, I find more of a fascistic tinge in the stock HN response to surveillance:

- Governments will never do anything; democracy is not fit for purpose

- A ‘natural elite’ of hacker Übermensch can avoid dystopia for themselves with hacking skills and expensive crypto currencies. The masses cannot be saved as they are inherently stupid and submissive. Things will always get worse, especially for them; abandon them.

Why such fatalism? The GDPR hasn’t even hit the books yet, and it’s having a transformative effect on how large US tech companies process data for everyone. We’re just beginning to see the tide turn on public opinion on Facebook.

I’ve hope for popular interest in privacy and anti-authoritarianism yet.

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Re:A radical proposal to keep your personal data safe by Htyv on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @01:46PM (#16747170)

Leadership != fascism

Leadership + time = fascism

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Re:A radical proposal to keep your personal data safe by confounded on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @02:02PM (#16747351)

Are you really implying that all groups of organized people are fascist sleeper cells?

That MLK and Gandhi were saved from their Hitlerism by assassination by heroic ethnic-separatists?

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Re:A radical proposal to keep your personal data safe by Htyv on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @03:03PM (#16748009)

I'm repeating the well-known saying that power corrupts. A leader is a baby fascist.

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Re:A radical proposal to keep your personal data safe by anigbrowl on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @02:24PM (#16747584)

We need a strong leader

That's how you ended up with a surveillance society in the first place, silly.

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Re:A radical proposal to keep your personal data safe by PirateBay on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @03:55PM (#16748473)

And if you have a weak leader, you have companies running around doing whatever they wish (e.g. Amazon and Google now) because there is no oversight or regulations, and pitiful punishments for betraying their customers.

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Re:A radical proposal to keep your personal data safe by anigbrowl on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @05:07PM (#16749236)

I think institutions are more important than leaders for sustainable social goods.

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Re:A radical proposal to keep your personal data safe by drivingmenuts on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @10:34AM (#16744987)

Simply put, never.

Future strong leaders will employ all of those means of deep state surveillance and invest in new ones in order to remain strong.

That cats out of the bag and it ain’t going back.

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