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Re:Study shows salaries of young women 8% higher than men in... by adventured on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @09:51AM (#16744550)
If it is true, it implies we need help programs for the young men who are being systematically discrminated against or otherwise oppressed by society. That includes new assistance programs to boost the rate of college graduation, since young men are so badly falling behind there (with projections for it to get much worse yet).

Victim blaming would be a common response, to proclaim that it's the fault of these young men. The real question we must ask is: what is society doing to these young men to leave them so unprepared and falling behind, and how can society correct that injustice?

Re:Study shows salaries of young women 8% higher than men in... by fjsolwmv on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @10:02AM (#16744651)
Peg Tyre wrote the classic book on this 10 years ago: https://www.amazon.com/Trouble-Boys-Surprising-Problems-Educ...

It hasn't gotten a huge amount of follow-up traction in schools though.

Also The New Jim Crow for a racial perspective that hits black men's employment prospects pretty hard.

https://www.amazon.com/New-Jim-Crow-Incarceration-Colorblind...

BTW for folks who are concerned that feminist or women don't care about boys and men, these two leasing books are books written by women about the abuse boys and men face.

Re:Study shows salaries of young women 8% higher than men in... by ShadowFaxSam on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @10:16AM (#16744790)
Always appreciate different news sources and ways to further educate myself.

>It depends on the job. What you say applies mainly to Twitter-empowered employees at consumer-facing tech companies.

It may depend on the job, one of them falls into the consumer facing tech company bucket (marketing).

However my other job was an analyst role at a Financial Services company which you typically expect to be male dominated and where you might expect this sex discrimination to occur.

It could have been the specific company I worked for (small sample size), but I found it to be a fair and equal opportunity hiring/promoting process at least for those early on in their career.

Re:Study shows salaries of young women 8% higher than men in... by throwawayyx96 on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @11:12AM (#16745385)
You worked as a financial analyst but yet don't seem to grasp the monumental difference between "women earn 80 percent less than men", which you cited above as the common narrative, and "women earn 80 percent of what men earn" or "women earn 20 percent less than men", which are two accurate descriptions of the common narrative.
Re:Study shows salaries of young women 8% higher than men in... by ShadowFaxSam on Thursday April 05, 2018 @05:23AM (#16763215)
I have to laugh at this because I definitely noticed my error after I posted this. I was waiting for someone to comment on the mathematical error.

Thank you, yes I understand how percentages work. Tip of the hat to you.

Re:Study shows salaries of young women 8% higher than men in... by aninhumer on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @11:46AM (#16745781)
An alternative explanation, given the difference in numbers here, is that discrimination against women means that the only women remaining in the field are those who are the most competent and well prepared for the job, whereas less competent men are given the benefit of the doubt, and allowed into the same positions.
Re:Study shows salaries of young women 8% higher than men in... by PunchTornado on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @03:49AM (#16752849)
Nope, the number of women and men in the workplace is almost the same in countries like Iceland, while the wage difference between males and females in their 20s is still there.
Re:Study shows salaries of young women 8% higher than men in... by PunchTornado on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @03:50AM (#16752855)
The fact remains that there are more women going to college and getting a degree than men. So I don't understand why you say we don't need to balance that...
Re:Study shows salaries of young women 8% higher than men in... by x220 on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @01:15PM (#16746859)
Yes, what a clever, politically convenient explanation.