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Re:Nutrition offers its resignation, and the reply by alfor on Monday April 02, 2018 @08:27PM (#16740786)
Look at https://nutritionfacts.org it's a doctor that does the digging through research paper and try to find a place to draw the line. Spoiler: The best diet is complete avoidance of process food and animals products. It also correlate highly with the blue zones findings.

edit: wow! I was expecting some pushback, but this is still a surprize. Please take a bit of time to look at the actual content before being to critic. Also it's made to be a bit entertaining and simple so it can reach a larger audience.

Re:Nutrition offers its resignation, and the reply by Endama on Monday April 02, 2018 @08:31PM (#16740813)
My problem is that I don't know what exactly constitutes "processed food". Like, isn't cooking a steak on a pan constitute a "process" on a food? If processed foods don't consider my steak example, how much process on a food causes it to fall into the unhealthy category you are describing?

I'm not trying to be nit-picky, this seriously is confusing for me (probably no small-part due to marketing).

Re:Nutrition offers its resignation, and the reply by emmanuel_1234 on Monday April 02, 2018 @09:23PM (#16741120)
My personal rule of thumb: if it wasn't available for pre-agricultural human, it doesn't have to be part of your diet (doesn't mean you can't eat it at all, but you surely shouldn't make it the foundation of your diet).

Dead animal and the fire are definitely part of Homo, especially Homo Sapiens.

You can call that a Paleo diet if you will, I don't, as the term as been tainted by quackery (see also: Superfood).

Re:Nutrition offers its resignation, and the reply by newnewpdro on Monday April 02, 2018 @08:45PM (#16740908)
What I think is generally meant by "processed food" is processed prior to your acquisition.

But you're obviously capable of doing any number of harmful processes on your own, it's just somewhat unlikely. Most people aren't incentivized to process their own foods for optimal shelf life and profitability over nutrition and health.

Re:Nutrition offers its resignation, and the reply by acover on Monday April 02, 2018 @08:44PM (#16740902)
Re:Nutrition offers its resignation, and the reply by nhebb on Monday April 02, 2018 @08:39PM (#16740866)
That site looks like spam - long form copywriting in video format - driving visitors toward buying his books.
Re:Nutrition offers its resignation, and the reply by apotheothesomai on Monday April 02, 2018 @08:35PM (#16740841)
"does the digging through research paper and try to find a place to draw the line" < That's not science, that's literary interpretation plus tendentious guess work.

"animals products" - We have been omnivores since before the genus Homo evolved. Our physiology has evolved to extract nutrition from animal products efficiently. A herbivore diet isn't sufficient for our species. Even our closest relatives, Chimpanzees, eat meat.

Re:Nutrition offers its resignation, and the reply by alfor on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @12:47AM (#16741985)
Please take a look at a few of his video, you will see. If for exemple you look at the antioxidant effects in blueberries there is probably hundreds of published papers. If you want to explain the scientific consensus in a few minutes video so people can take action in their food choice you need make some simplifications. Also, you might need to discard the papers that got financed by the blueberries association if their finding are wildly differents than the general consensus.

And by all mean, you are still free to read all the papers if you have the time, but that is probably a one man job just for the blueberries.

Re:Nutrition offers its resignation, and the reply by tomp on Monday April 02, 2018 @08:41PM (#16740880)
> We have been omnivores since before the genus Homo evolved

So? Evolution doesn't optimize for the lifespan we're targeting currently.

Re:Nutrition offers its resignation, and the reply by didgeoridoo on Monday April 02, 2018 @08:31PM (#16740812)
It also completely ignores any science that goes against vegan orthodoxy. So, take it with a very large grain of salt (and a slice of bacon).
Re:Nutrition offers its resignation, and the reply by BadassFractal on Monday April 02, 2018 @08:40PM (#16740873)
I would like veganism a lot more if so many of its representatives didn't act like it's a cult. The moralizing, in ingroup/outgroup dynamic etc.
Re:Nutrition offers its resignation, and the reply by alfor on Monday April 02, 2018 @09:04PM (#16741016)
Do you have exemples, I think he his genuinely concern by the health of people, but I would like to see some counter arguments.
Re:Nutrition offers its resignation, and the reply by didgeoridoo on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @08:37AM (#16744022)
Here’s a point-by-point takedown of many of Greger’s antiscientific claims: https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/death-as-a-foodborne-illnes...

The fact is, Greger is not a scientist. Science requires honest investigation, and a willingness to update one’s beliefs. Greger is an activist — he has already decided what his beliefs are, and he is selectively choosing to emphasize studies that support his beliefs (while ignoring those that don’t).

I wouldn’t have a problem with this if his site was called veganopinions.org. You’re allowed to have beliefs based on morality, not science. But when you corrupt the science to advance your cause, you’ve lost me entirely.

Re:Nutrition offers its resignation, and the reply by alfor on Thursday April 05, 2018 @01:53PM (#16767198)
Thanks, I will have a look. I find too that his conclusions seems skewed in that direction. My other reference for alimentation was the blue zone that also pointed mostly in the same direction, no process food, plenty of vegetable or vegan but also in some case a bit of meat and cheese.