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Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by abritinthebay on Monday April 02, 2018 @04:11PM (#16738792)
Given software !== chips and their ARM chips are - hands down - the best on the market... yeah, I'd think people would trust them.
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Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by mlloyd on Monday April 02, 2018 @04:33PM (#16739012)
Given the amount of evidence you presented, how could anyone refute your opinion?

OP raised a valid argument - Apple's QC has been crap lately and trending downwards. There's a lot of feedback out on the net to support that line of thinking.

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Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by Bud on Monday April 02, 2018 @05:39PM (#16739647)
There's been Apple-bashing "feedback out on the net" since Apple was founded.

Most of it has been laughable. The stuff you're talking about is firmly within that laughable camp.

If Apple's QC were "crap" you'd see that in customer satisfaction ratings for their #1 product: the iPhone. But guess what? You don't see that. And there is no downward trend.

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Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by monocasa on Monday April 02, 2018 @06:26PM (#16740004)
Shipping Mac OS so that anyone can just YOLO login as root?

https://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/mac-software/how-stop-some...

Storing the full disk encryption password in plaintext on the disk?

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208168

How do you explain these except for atrocious and trending downwards QC?

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Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by Bud on Monday April 02, 2018 @07:14PM (#16740322)
I do not deny that those were both terrible, awful mistakes (and I'm upvoting you for correctly including them in this thread). I would note that they were both relating to what is (perhaps unfortunately, but them's the facts) a very minor product for Apple. And that they're both fixed. And that Apple's security overall is still unquestionably far superior to that of its competition. Ask anyone who has to administrate both Macs and PCs for a living (like me).

My comments above still stand.

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Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by astrodust on Monday April 02, 2018 @06:32PM (#16740047)
Software, you could make a case, that's been a bit of a mess lately.

Hardware, though, you've got nothing. Where have they dropped the ball on their chips?

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Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by mlloyd on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @09:59AM (#16744626)
It's all one company. The reputation, stellar or tarnished, affects the entire brand. Their software QC has been bad lately, it's makes me question their hardware QC too. Those bugs/issues are often harder to find though - if they exist - they might not. But I think it's fair for me to question.
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Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by astrodust on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @01:11PM (#16756755)
For a company that makes a large volume of a very narrow range of products they have a pretty good track record when it comes to physical hardware, and so far their chip work hasn't hit any major snags.

When Apple's custom CPU has its first F00F-type bug then we'll see how they handle a real issue.

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