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Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by lykr0n on Monday April 02, 2018 @03:47PM (#16738545)
Geekbench is a poor tool. Maybe for simple mathematical operations, but x86-64 has a larger instruction set than what the A11 supports
Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by Aloha on Monday April 02, 2018 @03:54PM (#16738624)
I dont think there is strong connection between a larger instruction set, and performance.
Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by lykr0n on Monday April 02, 2018 @04:46PM (#16739115)
Using a bad example, let's say x86-64 and A11 can both add numbers up to 3 digits. The a11 can do that faster than x86-64. But I want to add a 5 digit number. The x86-64 can do that with one instruction, but the A11 has to break that 5 digit number into multiple 3 digit numbers in order to process it.

From my understanding, which might be wrong, Geekbench only tests what both can do. Comparing a pickup truck and a sports car you need to look at more than just how fast they can do. You can both move furniture, but the sports car will need to do a lot more to be able to what the pickup can.

Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by npunt on Monday April 02, 2018 @05:14PM (#16739383)
On the other hand, Apple hasn't been shy about putting fixed function hardware on the Ax chips to eke out the maximum performance for a given power budget. They were much faster at adding h265 decode/encode than Intel, for instance. I would imagine they'd spend their (larger) transistor budget on a lot of this type of dark silicon that would assist in speeding up common operations.
Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by Dylan16807 on Monday April 02, 2018 @05:22PM (#16739469)
Geekbench doesn't benchmark single instructions.
Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by deepnotderp on Monday April 02, 2018 @05:05PM (#16739288)
This doesn't make any sense.

Yes, Geekbench is a terrible CPU benchmark, but both of them are Turing complete, so there is no functionality difference. And complex instructions are broken into uOps in x86 too.

Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by Turing_Machine on Monday April 02, 2018 @04:22PM (#16738912)
You are 100% correct.