Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla...
by saagarjha on Monday April 02, 2018 @03:46PM
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Presumably their "desktop-grade" A-whatever chip will have a higher TDP and clock speed than their mobile counterparts.
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Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla...
by gascan on Monday April 02, 2018 @03:59PM
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If they could just turn up the TDP and clock speed on their chips and get 2x the performance of Intel's best chips that easily- they would already own the entire desktop market.
Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla...
by mozumder on Monday April 02, 2018 @04:12PM
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And some of us, with actual CPU design backgrounds, have been saying that for a while now.
We've been asking why Apple doesn't already do it.
Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla...
by samcat116 on Monday April 02, 2018 @06:08PM
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As someone without a CPU design backround, would something like this scale pretty linearly with added power and thermal headroom? I assume there are limit that would have to be overcome, but what would an ARM chip in the conditions of an i7 look like?
Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla...
by bzbarsky on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @10:28AM
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TDP typically scales as somewhere between the cube and fourth power of the clock speed if you're pushing the envelope (in the sense of running at frequencies where further frequency increase also needs a voltage increase). So having 10x the thermal envelope means you can probably clock about twice as fast, all else being equal.
Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla...
by mozumder on Monday April 02, 2018 @07:43PM
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It's more of a logarithmic scale.
The same architecture can generally scale to 10x over a few process generations.
Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla...
by arbie on Monday April 02, 2018 @11:09PM
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This does not hold at 10nm and below.
Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla...
by BillinghamJ on Monday April 02, 2018 @06:39PM
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Seems that itβs more of a logistical and network-effect issue in getting everyone to support it, rather than a technical issue.
Possibly a patent issue also