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Re:My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force ... by tehwebguy on Sunday April 01, 2018 @11:35AM (#16728788)
Is it dangerous to open a modern TV?

Might be worth finding the network chips and disconnecting or breaking them off.

Re:My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force ... by userbinator on Sunday April 01, 2018 @01:02PM (#16729268)
To a rough approximation, a "smart TV" consists of a computer, laptop-style, connected to the display and speakers.

From various places online, you can buy "scaler" boards that take HDMI/VGA/etc. to whatever interface the panel uses (LVDS is common), i.e. they comprise essentially all the electronics inside a standard non-smart monitor. They are intended for laptop display conversions but can drive much bigger displays too, as long as the interface is the same. That might be an alternative to buying a much more expensive "dumb TV", i.e. buy a smart TV and "dumb it down" yourself!

For example, this particular one is configured for an iPad's display but the sellers usually have other configurations available:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4K-eDP-HDMI-LVDS-Controller-...

Re:My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force ... by gh02t on Sunday April 01, 2018 @02:00PM (#16729574)
It's not as dangerous as a CRT, but there are some dangers; however it doesn't really matter. They're tightly integrated, you can't just pull out the smart bits and leave behind a tuner.

Generally most modern TVs are gonna have a power supply, a main logic board, a display driver board and maybe another control board for stuff like backlights or sound. The logic board is basically gonna be an embedded mini computer running a full embedded OS that orchestrates the UI/smart features, decoding the inputs and generating the control signals for the panel driver. This will all be highly integrated on a single board, probably with almost all of the functionality in one or two main chips. Point being, you can't just yank out the smart stuff and still have a functioning TV. It'd be a bit like trying to remove a feature from a computer motherboard.

The ideal way to go about it would be to write your own firmware for the chips, but that's a practical impossibility because almost always there's no data publicly available on the chips or the other parts like the panel. You might also be able to get something working if the actual panel uses a standard interface, but it'll be a ton of work.

There aren't that many teardowns of televisions online that I can find, but this article has some to give you an idea.

https://www.techrepublic.com/pictures/cracking-open-the-55-s...

Re:My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force ... by TheCoreh on Sunday April 01, 2018 @11:42AM (#16728833)
Or just don't connect them to the network?
Re:My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force ... by noir_lord on Sunday April 01, 2018 @12:03PM (#16728957)
Thats what I did, it popped up after first power up asking for wifi password, to quote Snowden "lol no.".
Re:My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force ... by zeep on Sunday April 01, 2018 @12:16PM (#16729016)
Any of them automatically connect to open wifi networks or maybe cellular networks?
Re:My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force ... by fencepost on Sunday April 01, 2018 @05:51PM (#16730676)
You may be able to check that by reviewing FCC documentation online similar to how people sleuth out new phones, though I've never looked at what precisely is required in terms of filing.
Re:My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force ... by ddalex on Sunday April 01, 2018 @01:38PM (#16729434)
> maybe cellular networks

Now you're getting me paranoid.

Re:My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force ... by poizan42 on Sunday April 01, 2018 @03:25PM (#16729964)
That would probably cost too much. At least I hope so.
Re:My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force ... by zeep on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @07:01PM (#16750227)
Amazon used to provide free networking for its readers... I think that it is very cheap to transfer text/"meta-data"... It might even be sponsored by the government...
Re:My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force ... by pjc50 on Sunday April 01, 2018 @12:33PM (#16729102)
It's usually a single-board highly integrated solution; CPU, RAM, Flash. You might be able to disable the wifi (if present).
Re:My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force ... by Scoundreller on Sunday April 01, 2018 @02:09PM (#16729609)
Funny how they do this with TVs, but even on a Macbook Air, the flash and wifi cards are still separate components.