Giraffes Added to the Endangered Species List (2016)

Re:Giraffes Added to the Endangered Species List (2016) by grecy on Saturday March 31, 2018 @01:04PM (#16724089)

I'm driving a complete circumnavigation of the continent - I have just driven through 21 countries in West Africa, and I'm aiming North to drive through another ~15 in the next 12 months [1] I have also driven Alaska - Argentina [2]

The more I travel, and the more I see and learn about the world, humans, population and the environment, the more I am dead-set on the idea of mandatory population control. We need to put limits on how many children a couple can have. I know China's policy had some serious downsides, but at this point I fear much, much worse if we don't.

Let's reverse the trend and start offering financial rewards to people that don't have children.

[1] http://theroadchoseme.com/africa-expedition-overview

[2] http://theroadchoseme.com/expedition-overview

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Re:Giraffes Added to the Endangered Species List (2016) by nannePOPI on Saturday March 31, 2018 @01:21PM (#16724171)

If you put population control, you will have honest people not reproducing and dishonest people reproducing, therefore you'll end up with spreading the genes of dishonesty.

Natural selection at work.

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Re:Giraffes Added to the Endangered Species List (2016) by TheCoreh on Saturday March 31, 2018 @01:50PM (#16724296)

> spreading the genes of dishonesty

Is there any scientific evidence that dishonesty is a genetic trait, though?

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Re:Giraffes Added to the Endangered Species List (2016) by asadlionpk on Saturday March 31, 2018 @02:52PM (#16724552)

even if not, the dishonest parents would most likely teach the same dishonesty to their children?

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Re:Giraffes Added to the Endangered Species List (2016) by tzs on Sunday April 01, 2018 @05:38AM (#16727514)

It's one thing to keep an illegal pregnancy and birth secret. It's another, much more difficult thing afterwards to raise that child in secret. I'd guess that among the penalties when the parents get caught would be losing custody and access to all their children, probably in most cases early enough that the birth parents won't have much influence on the morals and values those children end up with when they are adults.

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Re:Giraffes Added to the Endangered Species List (2016) by grecy on Saturday March 31, 2018 @02:37PM (#16724492)

Maybe so, but I genuinely believe this is such a large crisis we have to try... we have to do something.

Let's have severe penalties for those that break the rules, or mandatory abortions, or one of 30000 other possibilities.

yes, I know it's extremely, extremely unpopular, but with what I have seen on this planet, I genuinely believe it's our only hope.

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Re:Giraffes Added to the Endangered Species List (2016) by PaulMest on Saturday March 31, 2018 @01:20PM (#16724164)

What do you think the benefits of mandatory population control are?

Have you seen any of Hans Rosling's [1] talks on the topic of population growth? After watching, would you still think there is need for mandatory population control?

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LyzBoHo5EI

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Re:Giraffes Added to the Endangered Species List (2016) by grecy on Saturday March 31, 2018 @02:23PM (#16724433)

> What do you think the benefits of mandatory population control are?

We need to do everything we can to stop population growth. 7 billion is more than enough. I strongly believe we should get it back down below 5.

We're killing the planet, making species go extinct, don't have enough food, drinking water or energy for what we already have.

> have you seen any of Hans Rosling's [1] talks on the topic of population growth?

I have not, and my internet is a bit too expensive to watch YT right now, sorry.

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Re:Giraffes Added to the Endangered Species List (2016) by sbmthakur on Saturday March 31, 2018 @02:48PM (#16724537)

I personally support a two-child policy. However, putting limits is going to be really difficult in democratic regimes.

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