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Re:An Update on Last Week’s Accident by jacquesm on Saturday March 31, 2018 @07:54AM (#16722907)
The simplest argument here is that Tesla's are new vehicles, the total US fleet average age is much older than any Tesla on the road today and driver/passenger fatalities tend to be higher in older cars because they have fewer safety features.
Re:An Update on Last Week’s Accident by ineedasername on Saturday March 31, 2018 @04:41PM (#16725073)
higher in older vehicles

This seems intuitively that it would be true, but are there any stats on car age and accident frequency? Also where is the line on old? Vehicles made in the last 5-10 years will share most safety features, with all but a small minority of newer cars having some cutting edge. I'll admit I had been thinking of fleet age from the state of maintenance, but safety feature is a fascinating angle as well.. And the article you link in another comment was a fascinating read too, thanks!

Re:An Update on Last Week’s Accident by jacquesm on Sunday April 01, 2018 @01:59PM (#16729564)
For one there is the presence/absence of safety features (that one is obvious).

Then there is the actual design of the vehicles, cars that were made in the last couple of years fare much better in collisions with cars that are older because they are a lot stronger, and are better able to channel the energy of an impact to areas away from the passengers. Many newer vehicles will for instance shift the engine under the passenger compartment in a frontal impact.

Older airbags had 'best before' dates associated with the igniters being somewhat unstable and that reduced the certainty of them going off as they got older.

Then, finally, the bodies themselves, once cars start to rust you can patch them up but they won't be the same afterwards. There is quite a bit of redundancy in the body but it definitely doesn't help if there is significant corrosion.

Re:An Update on Last Week’s Accident by ajross on Saturday March 31, 2018 @07:58AM (#16722921)
Yeah yeah, I get the argument. The point was that you can't ding Tesla for "bad statistics" by using an argument that asserts "tend to be" without evidence.

In fact I personally doubt (i.e. I have no evidence and am not actually making this argument because it would be "bad statistics") this is true if you compare Tesla's to the BMWs being sold into the same demographic. Those "safe new vehicles" you're positing include a whole lot of crossovers and minivans driven in much safer ways.

Re:An Update on Last Week’s Accident by jacquesm on Saturday March 31, 2018 @08:03AM (#16722936)