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Re:Tesla Looked Like the Future, Now Some Ask If It Has One by toomuchtodo on Thursday March 29, 2018 @10:04PM (#16713083)
To each their own of course. I'd have no qualms about buying my Model S again.

I'm unwilling to buy a car stuck in time in it's model year, or that must wait years for a software upgrade. Then again, I'm happy with my iPhone, bugs and all; it'll get updates too, and works just fine between iOS updates.

Re:Tesla Looked Like the Future, Now Some Ask If It Has One by jackvalentine on Thursday March 29, 2018 @10:08PM (#16713101)
> I'm unwilling to buy a car stuck in time in it's model year

You know I used to think this way, then all my computing devices started changing often for the worse with every update.

For me a stable device that doesn't change month-to-month is a feature, not a disadvantage. Give me the LTS branch of the car world.

Re:Tesla Looked Like the Future, Now Some Ask If It Has One by toomuchtodo on Thursday March 29, 2018 @10:11PM (#16713112)
I can appreciate that perspective. I want to live at the bleeding edge, and don't mind the inconveniences or regressions. I can't take my money with me when I die, so after savings and basic needs are met, I want to live in the future (even if the products are still in beta!).

I can't get that sort of experience from stodgy, risk adverse legacy enterprises. I want to support enterprises that want to succeed or die.

EDIT: Edit after your edit, keep the LTS builds, give me nightly! Tests pass? Ship it!

Re:Tesla Looked Like the Future, Now Some Ask If It Has One by jackvalentine on Thursday March 29, 2018 @10:40PM (#16713259)
Please don't beta test your products on the same roads I'm using with my stable branch ;)
Re:Tesla Looked Like the Future, Now Some Ask If It Has One by toomuchtodo on Thursday March 29, 2018 @10:45PM (#16713291)
> Tests pass? Ship it!

If there are bugs, more tests! And always, always, always degrade gracefully.

Re:Tesla Looked Like the Future, Now Some Ask If It Has One by jackvalentine on Thursday March 29, 2018 @10:59PM (#16713368)
> I want to live in the future (even if the products are still in beta!)

Now we're getting in to why traditional automakers are 'stodgy' and 'risk averse'.

I do agree that there is a lot that can be improved in cars, but a ship software at a million miles an hour approach seems like the kind of practice that will end up externalizing the costs to the rest of us.

Edit: I'm gonna leave this up, but it doesn't really reflect the friendly tone I'm trying to put across - I've enjoyed this chat.

Re:Tesla Looked Like the Future, Now Some Ask If It Has One by numbsafari on Friday March 30, 2018 @06:42AM (#16715058)
This is the kind of self-centered, callous mindset that runs over innocent pedestrians.

It’s a car, not a web site. People other than the drivers’ lives are at risk when you drive on public roads.

Re:Tesla Looked Like the Future, Now Some Ask If It Has One by toomuchtodo on Friday March 30, 2018 @09:51AM (#16716017)
I’m the one who is responsible for the vehicle at all times, not an Uber safety driver who isn’t paying attention, and I take that responsibility seriously.
Re:Tesla Looked Like the Future, Now Some Ask If It Has One by Fins on Friday March 30, 2018 @01:26AM (#16713891)
Can you be isolated to a testing serv^H^H^H^H roads?
Re:Tesla Looked Like the Future, Now Some Ask If It Has One by s2g on Thursday March 29, 2018 @10:53PM (#16713340)
Maybe you just don’t want the pain of feeling like you wasted 100k.
Re:Tesla Looked Like the Future, Now Some Ask If It Has One by toomuchtodo on Thursday March 29, 2018 @11:09PM (#16713402)
I only spent a bit more than half that on a CPO Model S, and I'd do it again in a heartbeat. If you have the means, I highly recommend it. By far, my favorite car having owned several Corvettes, an SLK 350, a luxury pickup truck, and a Subaru STI.