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Re:Tesla Looked Like the Future, Now Some Ask If It Has One by toomuchtodo on Thursday March 29, 2018 @10:11PM (#16713112)
I can appreciate that perspective. I want to live at the bleeding edge, and don't mind the inconveniences or regressions. I can't take my money with me when I die, so after savings and basic needs are met, I want to live in the future (even if the products are still in beta!).

I can't get that sort of experience from stodgy, risk adverse legacy enterprises. I want to support enterprises that want to succeed or die.

EDIT: Edit after your edit, keep the LTS builds, give me nightly! Tests pass? Ship it!

Re:Tesla Looked Like the Future, Now Some Ask If It Has One by jackvalentine on Thursday March 29, 2018 @10:40PM (#16713259)
Please don't beta test your products on the same roads I'm using with my stable branch ;)
Re:Tesla Looked Like the Future, Now Some Ask If It Has One by toomuchtodo on Thursday March 29, 2018 @10:45PM (#16713291)
> Tests pass? Ship it!

If there are bugs, more tests! And always, always, always degrade gracefully.

Re:Tesla Looked Like the Future, Now Some Ask If It Has One by jackvalentine on Thursday March 29, 2018 @10:59PM (#16713368)
> I want to live in the future (even if the products are still in beta!)

Now we're getting in to why traditional automakers are 'stodgy' and 'risk averse'.

I do agree that there is a lot that can be improved in cars, but a ship software at a million miles an hour approach seems like the kind of practice that will end up externalizing the costs to the rest of us.

Edit: I'm gonna leave this up, but it doesn't really reflect the friendly tone I'm trying to put across - I've enjoyed this chat.

Re:Tesla Looked Like the Future, Now Some Ask If It Has One by numbsafari on Friday March 30, 2018 @06:42AM (#16715058)
This is the kind of self-centered, callous mindset that runs over innocent pedestrians.

It’s a car, not a web site. People other than the drivers’ lives are at risk when you drive on public roads.

Re:Tesla Looked Like the Future, Now Some Ask If It Has One by toomuchtodo on Friday March 30, 2018 @09:51AM (#16716017)
I’m the one who is responsible for the vehicle at all times, not an Uber safety driver who isn’t paying attention, and I take that responsibility seriously.
Re:Tesla Looked Like the Future, Now Some Ask If It Has One by Fins on Friday March 30, 2018 @01:26AM (#16713891)
Can you be isolated to a testing serv^H^H^H^H roads?