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Re:Tesla Asks for Model 3 Factory Volunteers to Prove ‘Hater... by Someone1234 on Thursday March 29, 2018 @02:26PM (#16709658)
> > Tesla has accomplished something no other automaker can claim: It's made a relatively affordable electric car.

That quote doesn't even make sense. The Model 3 isn't even the cheapest all electric car...

The Smart Fortwo Electric ($26K), Nissan LEAF ($29K), Volkswagen e-Golf ($30K), and Mitsubishi i-MiEV ($23K).

So Tesla is the only automaker that can claim they made a "relatively affordable electric car" by producing one that's more expensive and has sold fewer units? I do not understand.

Re:Tesla Asks for Model 3 Factory Volunteers to Prove ‘Hater... by piyh on Thursday March 29, 2018 @02:32PM (#16709733)
Those cars have a range between 58 miles and 125.
Re:Tesla Asks for Model 3 Factory Volunteers to Prove ‘Hater... by Someone1234 on Thursday March 29, 2018 @02:37PM (#16709801)
How about we stick to the claim at hand instead of trying to spin the topic into more favorable avenues. The quote was:

> > Tesla has accomplished something no other automaker can claim: It's made a relatively affordable electric car.

Nobody is arguing that Tesla's vehicles have no merit, we're picking apart that absurd claim.

Re:Tesla Asks for Model 3 Factory Volunteers to Prove ‘Hater... by jandrese on Thursday March 29, 2018 @02:48PM (#16709936)
Wasn't that goal already met by the EV1 back in the 80s? If you're willing to live with compromises (short range and long recharge times), affordable electric cars are a long since solved problem.
Re:Tesla Asks for Model 3 Factory Volunteers to Prove ‘Hater... by dragonwriter on Thursday March 29, 2018 @03:05PM (#16710107)
> Wasn't that goal already met by the EV1 back in the 80s?

The EV1 wasn't for sale at any price, so it also wasn't relatively affordable. It was leased at a loss to meet a state law while GM lobbied against the law. (Same with its contemporaries the Toyota RAV4EV and the Honda EVplus.)

Re:Tesla Asks for Model 3 Factory Volunteers to Prove ‘Hater... by stevenwoo on Thursday March 29, 2018 @03:55PM (#16710508)
Pretty sure the RAV4EV was sold in limited quantities, there's at least two different ones I have seen in downtown Los Altos over the past 10 years, so Toyota didn't try to destroy them all like GM did with the EV1.
Re:Tesla Asks for Model 3 Factory Volunteers to Prove ‘Hater... by dragonwriter on Thursday March 29, 2018 @04:15PM (#16710643)
That's right, I had some RAV4 EVs were sold after the leases when the line was discontinued (though you may have also seen the newer RAV4 EV, as it was resurrected in 2012.)