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Re:AV1 Release by m1el on Wednesday March 28, 2018 @11:57AM (#16698766)
It's a nitpick, but a necessary one.

x264 is a codec. An implementation of H.264 standard.

x264 is loved because it is very optimized and fine-tuned. There are plenty of H.264 implementations that aren't.

We're probably not going to see AV1 implementations on the same level as x264 for at least a few years.

Re:AV1 Release by FullyFunctional on Wednesday March 28, 2018 @12:05PM (#16698871)
I am COMPLETELY aware of the difference and I was deliberate in writing that. We need the kind of love, hard and excellent work on AV1 software (encoder is the harder, being open ended) that brought us the x264 encoder. AV1 decoders will come aplenty I have no doubt and I'm hoping for a good FPGA implementation.
Re:AV1 Release by aroman on Wednesday March 28, 2018 @02:12PM (#16700242)
That was entirely the point of the comment that you replied to correct.
Re:AV1 Release by gribbly on Wednesday March 28, 2018 @05:43PM (#16702259)
>We're probably not going to see AV1 implementations on the same level as x264 for at least a few years.

True, on that note, over at the Doom9 forums, the x265 spokesperson there said that they will consider making a AV1 encoder should there be a market.

Given the massive amount of support gathered for AV1 from web and hardware giants, and how it's a royalty free codec and thus in a great position to be the next generation 'de facto' video standard on the web, I'd wager there is a good market for a third party encoder from excellent developers like those behind x265.

Re:AV1 Release by Shtirlic on Wednesday March 28, 2018 @02:28PM (#16700389)
It's correct that av1 based on vp9? So vp9 codecs exists and can be used as start for av1 implementation?
Re:AV1 Release by BTeam on Wednesday March 28, 2018 @02:57PM (#16700672)
The base was VP10 + tools from Thor (Cisco) and Daala (Xiph.Org/Mozilla), and it evolved from there to AV1 through a process of "experiments", test, IP checks and then its enablement.

Assuming that VP10 shares a significant base design with VP9 it would not be surprising if some part of VP9 sillicons decoders could be leveraged on customer hardware, while awaiting for more dedicated circuits.

But on the software end, libaom (AOM reference implementation) is indeed a fork of libvpx. But this library is not broadly considered a good implementation, even for VP9. Pehaps the guys behind EVE for VP9 [1] will produce an AV1 implementation based of their codebase.

[1] https://www.twoorioles.com/eve-for-vp9/

Re:AV1 Release by floatboth on Wednesday March 28, 2018 @07:01PM (#16702844)
Hopefully fast implementations won't be proprietary like EVE is.