Thoughts on Embracing the Social Internet Over Social Media

Re:Thoughts on Embracing the Social Internet Over Social Media by acomjean on Sunday March 25, 2018 @11:20AM (#16672534)

I think its a good take.

The problem its hard when not social media to get visibility.

Its easy to start a blog (wordpress/blogger/tumblr etc.. ), its harder to get people to go to it and periodically check it out. RSS aggregators/ google reader was a good way to do this, but they've fallen out of favor. There is a ghost town of abandoned blogs on the internet presumably because they didn't get the reads/ interaction.

Its almost like you need to announce your new blogpost on twitter/ fb..

But I think there are solutions.

I saw this open source groupware on hn a while back and am starting to get in installed for an art non-profit. There are probably others, but I'm going install and see how it goes:

https://www.agorakit.org/en/

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Re:Thoughts on Embracing the Social Internet Over Social Media by cilefen on Sunday March 25, 2018 @12:17PM (#16672840)

https://indieweb.org/ lays out techniques for getting the word out when you publish a blog.

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Re:Thoughts on Embracing the Social Internet Over Social Media by eitland on Sunday March 25, 2018 @12:28PM (#16672902)

Or one could just wrote because on wants to write, want to share knowledge and not to "build and audience" or anything.

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Re:Thoughts on Embracing the Social Internet Over Social Media by togetherasone on Sunday March 25, 2018 @12:49PM (#16673028)

I agree with this sentiment. Yet, it seems instinctive to suggest that the internet wasn't made to be exploited by those wishing to monetize it. I just think we've let the presence of large tech companies pervert this concept.

Absent such groups, it would seem to be desirable to let individuals monetize work which makes them happy. In such a web, it would be more akin to a street marketplace, as opposed to, say, a curated set of goods.

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Re:Thoughts on Embracing the Social Internet Over Social Media by owly on Sunday March 25, 2018 @11:29AM (#16672578)

Please post about your experience on hn once you have it implemented. It will be valuable to the community and generate discussion for other options.

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Re:Thoughts on Embracing the Social Internet Over Social Media by togetherasone on Sunday March 25, 2018 @12:41PM (#16672990)

"The problem its hard when not social media to get visibility."

So the matter we must take up is that of equal opportunity for those wishing to increase their readership, (whether for influence or monetary reasons)?

That's my interpretation. In this sense, are Google and many other "given" sites on the web a barrier to having a conversation about such measures, because of their power?

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Re:Thoughts on Embracing the Social Internet Over Social Media by acomjean on Sunday March 25, 2018 @03:14PM (#16673939)

I think good visibility to quality content is the problem. Maybe why many of us are here on HN to get interesting content not on our social platform.

Google would seem to want this a more open web. I suspect they're starting to fear everyone using Facebook for everything, thus investing in Wordpress. Though they haven't been big supporters of their own blogging platform.

A lot of the social media Giants like you to keep your content on their own site, basically the longer your on Facebook/twitter the more ads they can show you. Google drops ads all over the web (except Facebook and twitter) so they don't care where you go.

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