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Re:Facebook scraped call, text message data for years from A... by Groxx on Sunday March 25, 2018 @03:32AM (#16671179)
Android has a lot of nasty corners around stuff like this, which can prevent being both streamlined (accessing all photos does let you optimize for your app, some people want that) and privacy-friendly (for people who don't want that). My personal favorite:

If you don't request camera permission, you can still open the camera with an intent. This is great!

If you do request camera permission, and you are denied, you can't use that intent either. https://blog.egorand.me/taking-photos-not-so-simply-how-i-go...

I honestly can't tell if it's this way to be intentionally hostile to users, or by accident, or if they honestly think this is a positive quality.

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Re:Facebook scraped call, text message data for years from A... by rasz on Sunday March 25, 2018 @07:25AM (#16671708)
I dont understand your frustration, user clearly doesnt want to give you camera access, leave him alone.
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Re:Facebook scraped call, text message data for years from A... by Groxx on Sunday March 25, 2018 @08:21PM (#16675509)
"Give app X direct access to the camera, microphone, and all my photos literally any time it pleases" and "use this camera app I trust instead" are very, very different desires.

Usually I hate the in-app cameras, because they're not optimized for my device. They're usually slower, have no flash control, no zoom, no manual exposure options, etc. I'd almost always prefer to use a dedicated camera app instead.

Because of this permissions decision, if an app wants to bake in a camera thing (nearly every app that might ever touch the camera does, even if e.g. only for a QR code reader or something), I can no longer choose. The app can't open my camera app when it makes sense.

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Re:Facebook scraped call, text message data for years from A... by rocho on Sunday March 25, 2018 @07:55AM (#16671786)
You are missing the point, which is that you can bypass the permission system completely by directly launching the camera intent.
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Re:Facebook scraped call, text message data for years from A... by danjoc on Sunday March 25, 2018 @11:11AM (#16672497)
Vacuuming up your data is intentional. Google Android. Don't like it? Use/build AOSP derivatives.
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Re:Facebook scraped call, text message data for years from A... by SubiculumCode on Sunday March 25, 2018 @12:32PM (#16672929)
In parent 'intent' referred to a programming construct of some kind, just a FYI
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